Captain Mench
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You can look at Shake as an option… check out what it can do in slow motion for 24 progressive footage:
CaptM
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Another thing that we haven’t asked…
Right-Click (control-click) on the file in the browser window and look at item properties. What does it say for the audio there? 48k? Any compression? 16 bit?
CaptM
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You know, I’m not sure… I mean I KNOW my tv is an interlaced unit… but it still looks good. Here’s my rational… I have a progressive scan DVD player but not a progressive scan TV… all my Hollywood DVDs still look fine…
Maybe flawed rational, but it works for me.
CaptM
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You cannot. DV is DV… digital. What you get off the camera is what went ON the camera.
Those sliders are for other capture cards should you have one.
CaptM
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Sometimes we call this crash record.
Hook up your camera or deck (with a tape in it) via fw to the mac. Set the camera to VTR mode. Open up FCP and it should recognize the deck/camera. Make sure to go VIEW – VIEW EXTERNAL — ALL FRAMES. Then, also check that AUDIO FOLLOWS VIDEO.
Then hit RECORD on the camera… NOT the button for recording camera imput… there should be anoter button.
Then start the timeline. The camera will record what’s on the timeline. Make sure you render EVERYTHING Option-R and Option-Apple-R before you try this. Also even before you do that, change your RT settings to PLAYBACK HIGH… not sure that actually effects the FW playback, but it won’t hurt.
Good luck,
CaptM
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I’d trash the preferences…
https://pistolerapost2.com/fcprescue/
Use the v4 version.
Does this happen when you dbl click a project file too?
CaptM
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Wow — open ended questions like that are cause for MUCH debate.
We could just answer:
Maybe
And leave it at that.
However… we’ll need to know:
1) Are you sure your audio goes all the way to the end?
2) If it shows in your timeline that the audio DOES go to the end… dbl click it and send the audio up to the viewer… does it show waveforms all the way to the end? (or you can see that in the timeline by apple-option(or control)-W… (sorry I forget which one… usually just mash buttons anyway.)
3) How many layers of audio do you have where it cuts out?
4) Does it cut out at the same place every time?
5) Try Apple-Option-R to render down the audio just to make sure.
6) Maybe something else I haven’t thought of…CaptM
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Ok — I’ve explained this a bunch so I think I’m good at it. I’m not gonna cover everything… google’s your answer there… but this will get you close. Plus, I’m not gonna guarantee my facts here…
So — The DVX can shoot 24 frames of video per second. But the DV tape cannot handle capturing at 24 frames of video per second, so there are little Gnomes inside the camera that grab certain frames and pull them down (pulldown) and combine them on the fly to create interlaced frames inbetween the anchor frames so when all is said and done there are 30 (ish) frames of video per second flying onto the tape. The Gnomes are SO GOOD at what they do, they have it down to a rhythm… a cadence if you will… (hee… Pulldown Cadence).
There are two types of cadences these Gnomes sing. One is a simple 3.2 cadence (24P) and the other is more advanced… comes from a slovac rhythmic influence and that advanced cadence is 2.3.3.2 (24pA)
As you know, broadcasters here in America don’t like anything other than 30(ish) frames per second, but for YEARS they’ve been showing films on tv… HOW? you might ask… well, but using relatives of these gnomes (though bigger) to create the 3.2 cadence. In the old days they called this telecine maybe because they were trying to create cinematic television?
IF you want to use your film for broadcast it is best if you shoot 24P mode. This way you’ll edit the pulldown cadence of 3.2 in a 29.97 timeline and it will look film-ish but still retain the 30frames per second. If you need to go to film with that after the fact then you’ll need to do a REVERSE TELECINE (which is another post, but look into Cinema Tools if you NEED to do this).
HOWEVER — If you’d like to go either to FILM/WEB/DVD and retain the true 24 frames per second shuttering that the camera gave you in the first place BEFORE the gnomes got in the way with their song, you’ll want to REMOVE the ADVANCED PULLDOWN CADENCE. The Gnomes were very upset when we asked them to sing their Advanced Cadence and they chose a cadence that really looks crappy when played on a TV… so we REALLY want to get rid of it. Lucky for you, FCP can remove that cadence on the fly when capturing.
Choose DV/NTSC 48k Advanced Pulldown Removal capture preset and you’re good to go. (you’ll need to create a new one if you are capturing anamorphic material because for some reason FCP didn’t come with THAT preset already… no problems, just edit and save.)
So, now you’ve captured the material shot with 24pA mode into FCP. The DVX was clicking away at 24 frames per second, the Gnomes were singing their Advanced Cadence and the tape was recording 29.97 frames per second… Then when you got home, the deck was reading 29.97 off the tape, FCP Anti-gnomes were busy ripping out the combined frames and leaving you with captured material of only 24 progressive frames per second (ish).
NOW — create a sequence set to 23.98 fps and start editing away.
You can send it to the web at 24fps and it will look great! You can send it to DVD at 24fps and it will look great! OR you can even send it direct to film and it will look great! All in 24fps.
Should you want to go BACK to tape for backup… guess what… you’ll need to hire again some gnomes to sing a song… your choice… Backup? Use ADVANCED CADENCE so you can remove it again later… FOR BROADCAST OR TV from tape? Use 3.2 Regular Cadence.
Hope this helps.
Oh — to answer your question. Web and DVD? Use 24pA setting on the DVX.
CaptM
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No, but there is a workaround… just hit Apple-+ or Apple-(Minus) and it will jump to playhead in the middle without stopping the playback.
CaptM
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The ONLY thing I can think of — now that I’ve read your posts is that maybe somehow you named your placeholder move the same as the clip of the original file??? And kept them in the same folder???
I’d hate to think that you ended up overwriting the original master clip with the shake render…
Think that could have happened?
I usually save my Sent to Shake movies in a seperate folder under each project in my capture scratch folders… but NOT in the same folder as my captured media.
Hmmm.
CaptM