Brian Reynolds
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What is the input selected to? (front panel) Mic, 1, 2.
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Travis you have used a cable with the wiring connections wired the wrong way around.
Richard made mentioned this a couple of postings up, it is a common problem with DSLR camera gear but can be overcome with possibly a cable re wire at the XLR end.‘Celebrating 40 years of Broadcasting Audio….
Started with Magnetic stripe and Sprocket holes to now Gigabytes and Touch Screen Mixing Consoles’…… -
It will all depend on your work flow…. There are a couple of things the the new series MixPre series don’t have….
They don’t have a ‘dual card’ record. On my shoots i will often hand over one card to the client and then keep the other for my backup OR one card recorded at 48/24 and the other in MP3 format for transcribing.
The MixPre 3/6 don’t have balanced outs so feeding a ‘pro’ level is difficult. The latest MixPre 10 does have balanced outs.
The Zoom F4 doesn’t have the above problems BUT it has a -10 output rather than a +4 (normal pro level)
I feel the Zoom F4 is better ‘bang for your buck’ so to speak
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Yes have to agree with you separate audio files are a real pain….
I do a lot of dual / Multi camera shoots for interviews etc (my role is location sound).
My normal setup is a Sound Devices 442 mixer (XLR outs) feed camera ‘A’, (Hirose output) feeds camera ‘B’ and the (direct outs) of the inputs feed either a Zoom F4 or H6 recorders and recorded at 48k/24bit (for a backup) and often there is a requirement for a ‘offline’ MP3 file for the producer.Firstly by using a DSLR camera limits your audio setup but only just a little bit.
So as a suggestion is use a location sound person and an audio mixer (your budget may allow for it but it may not).
The mixer will allow the mics to be controlled easily, in your case it pan one mic to the Left and the other to the Right and then take the output of the mixer and feed any number of audio recorders / cameras that you want.
The mixer output could be fed to the cameras / recorders either wirelessly or via cables.If you are doing a one person shoot you have probably bitten off to much, 2x Camera, lighting, sound is just asking for problems. Your brain will struggle to keep up.
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The info you need is so VERY specific and the chances of anyone doing EXACTLY the way you want to would be very rare indeed.
So as a suggestion gather the gear together connect it all up and actually see if it will do what you want it to, your in the best position to test it all out. -
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Most of the recorders in the Zoom range H4, H4n, H5, H6, F4, F8 the XLR inputs are ‘mic level’ the 6.5mm in the centre of the inout socket are ‘line level’ ….. So XLR = Mic level,…….. 6.5 mm plug = Line level.
No matter how much you turn down the input level controls of the recorders feeding ‘line level’ into a mic input WILL over load…..EVERY time.
Line level MUST go into line level…. always…….. NOT mic level (unless you use an external pad of at least 40-50 db of attenuation).
Now the actual ‘mix’ you are wanting to record…….
Mixer output will be mix the op is sending to the speakers / PA which maybe not ideal….. but probably the best for your situation.
An AUX mix could be better …….BUT it has to be setup specifically for ‘your’ needs then needs to me monitored and mixed. In most situations the op struggles to do the main PA mix, to add another mix he needs to control doubles his workload. And think about it if times get busy which mix would they put priority to? The main mix of course.
Big music shows for TV will often have many mixes going of the SAME mics…. Front of House / PA mix, then there will be a fold back mix for the artists and if being broadcast there will be another split to another mixer / operator to do a Broadcast mix. So each mic will have a 3 way split.
In your case just use a Main Mix to feed your wireless system….. you may change in future years but start simple and work up is better than going complex at the start.
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The ‘LINE OUT’ of the mixer should be a perfect match for the Boya system input, the XLR-F to 3.5mm plug should do the job…. If it doesn’t have the right connections it might be just an easy switch around within the XLR connector. (you won’t know till you try it).
The other system that only has ‘mic in’ could be made to do the job but you will need to have access to a competent Techo sort of person.
You will only need one channel to feed from your mixer to your camera, use the mic on the camera top to ad some ‘atmos’ to any video recordings (just a small amount will make it sound more ‘real’)
But your on the right path to do what your wanting to do……….
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As a guide….. if the talent can’t reach out and touch the mic……Its to far away.