Brian Reynolds
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Real simple… get yourself an FM transmitter approx $50 they are used to feed audio from MP3 players or iPods so you can listen on a car radio..
I use one on my shure FP33 mixer o/p from “tape out” which is 3.5mm stereo socket.This leaves the XLRs to feed the camera.
It gives about 10-15m range and you can listen on a standard FM radio (and in stereo), runs on 2xAAA batteries and lasts about 6 hrs….
Works a treat!!!!! -
Hi all, well i built it ( a good way to kill a wet afternoon) the short answer to does it work NO.
You can feed the signals in the original idea but does have cross talk from bal-line to unbal-line but not the other way, UNTILL you feed the input signal to the o/p as would be used on an IFB or Boom Op monitor feed.
The result= high feq. feed back.. which changed with various cable lenghts.
Overall NOT viable in the real world -
OH YES 6-10m high.. As the band has 77 drummers it would be approx 20-25m or more wide ..then have a look at the width of the polar pattern of the mic being used, this will determine the height! if to low you wont get the drummers on the sides, their level will be much lower than the centre drums thus not achieving a natural balance….when overhead micing of bands you MUST maintain the natural balance between ALL sections of that band.
Live accoustic bands must be handled VERY differently than “modern day electronic bands”
And yes you may claim this style of micing will add to noise floor… but 77 drums is going to be %#*$! loud…the s/n ratio is the least of your concern. -
Many years ago i did a military tatoo very similar to this with great results.
I assume the camera positions are
1. High wide shot
2. High tight shot
3. Lower/ground shot
4. Portable (left side)
5. Portable (right side)
My mic suggestions are: ALL condenser mics cardiod or short shotgun pattern placed on high stands (at least 2-3m high).* 1 or 2 mics(if you also want to go front /back) on stands on left side.
* The same again on the right side
* A stereo mic or crossed pair on a stand in the front centre.You might also want to add 1 or2 stereo mics for crowd fx.
You will need to mix all mics with at least 10-12 channel desk.
This will give a good overall mix of the event.
The mixer o/p is then fed to L+R of Cam 1 & 2 and a backup audio recorder
Cams 3,4,5 need to record audio from their own good quality condencer mics, either mono or stereo to be added to the overall mix in post production or via cables if you are doing this as an Outside Broadcast.
This all sounds a bit daunting but you will love the results.
The mic you have indicated in the link would sound good if placed high in the CENTRE of all the drummers about 6-10m high.. this might work if you are in an indoor stadium, but if its your only mic outdoors not so good.
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The 416 mic is VERY critical on phantom volts it needs 48v +/- 4v.
see
https://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/01511#Many cameras claim to have 48v phantom but dont,
use a multimeter to measure the volts between pins 1&2 and 1&3 they should be 48v +/- 4v.
Also try the same test with a long mic cable plugged in.
Old cables /connectors with corroded pins are often a problem.
Spray with WD40 or CRC 26 etc.this may fix some connector problems.
Also working in high humitity can cause problems.
You may need to use an external phantom supply or mixer