[Boris Riabov]

Hello Matt,

Thanks for the help!
I’m just having an issue with Pro-Tools; when I open my new session and try to import my stereo .wav files so I can do the SRC pulldown, Pro-Tools converts them to mono files, and converts each file into two in its own folder.
When I import them, FCP still gives me the green bar in the audio 🙁
Is there any way to tell Pro-Tools to keep the .wav files in stereo for re-import back into FCP?

-Boris

[Boris Riabov]

Great!

1. I’ll get to it; I’ll try to reverse telecine clips again (I had followed the Cinema Tools manual which told me to choose Field 2 according to the A-B-C-D-D 29.97fps letters on my window burn).

2. I guess I should go through all the settings to see which ones give me no interlaced footage – meaning each letter can be properly read A-B-C-D – and the footage is not interlaced.

3. I guess I will do the audio pulldown through Pro-Tools?
I will read-up on the automatic audio pulldown in FCP and I will read the entire Cinema Tools guide. I think I’ve covered about half of it so far!
I spoke to one of the sound guys at my university and he told me Pro-Tools lets you conform the audio when you import it (I imagine I’ll be doing pull-down on all those .wav clips to 24TC?)

4. Should do the audio pull down to my .aiff music score files? I also have .aiff voiceover audio files.

5. When I export an OMF should I tell my sound designer to work in 23.98? 24TC In Pro-Tools? Or does frame rate does not matter at this point?

6. Perfoming Pull Down = Bake In?

I really, really appreciate all your help. It’s great to hear concrete advice after reading up on so many ‘recommendations’ and work-flows.

[Boris Riabov]

Final Question!

Does this process at all conflict with how I need to export my OMF for my sound designer?
Should I also layer in the score, temp SFX before I do the XML workflow? Or could I add them in the new project after all the clip audio/video is properly synched?

-Boris

[Boris Riabov]

I think I got it.

I will re-sync the 29fps clips, video/audio/merge, place them in the 23.98 fps timeline, and have my picture-locked timeline.

I will then export an XML of the entire 23.98 sequence, open it with text-edit and make the changes like you said, reopen another FCP project, import the sequence. I did this for three clips, and the green bars have gone away – and it seems to be in sync.

This process seems to be easier than going through Pro-Tools. What are your thoughts?

Sincerely,
Boris

[Boris Riabov]

Hello Matt,

Because I edited previously at 29.97fps, straight from the miniDV tape, and the audio was at 30TC, I believe everything was in sync, although I may be completely wrong and my eyes were fooling me, with the audio, in fact, slowly drifting!

Yes, I am rebuilding from scratch, matching the sequences clip by clip through the key-frame window burns, which isn’t too difficult, only time consuming – my own fault for not doing it properly the first time and editing in 23.98fps right off the bat.
I am seeing that the clips in both timelines (29.97fps, 23.98fps) are pretty much identical in length, so I am on my way to maintaining proper visual picture lock and identical edits between shots in both sequences.

I currently have my new timeline setup in the photo below. I realized that the Sequence Preset Editor allows me to set the TC Rate, but I’m assuming it has nothing to do audio?

What I’d prefer to do, is resync only the takes that are in my 23.98fps picture-locked timeline, merge clips, and drop them into the sequence, clip by clip – this way I can double check sync of every clip (tedious, I know), and make sure the edits are the same.

I’m still having some difficulty with the XML workflow. Should I export the XML of an empty sequence and change the TC (text-edit) and reimport it? Should I import before I resync, and merge?
I’m already working off an XML (from Cinema Tools).

-Boris

[Boris Riabov]

It seems, I absolutely must change the audio logging TC rate of 30 through XML?

-Boris

[Boris Riabov]

Hello Matt,

I’ve been reading your post, and I have some questions about your guide.

If I am already working from an XML file (imported from Cinema Tools to Batch Capture miniDV tapes (no audio) at 29.97fps, perform the reverse telecine, offline and reconnect clips in FCP to the 23.98 clips, could I import just an audio xml?

When you recommend opening another, new project and importing the ‘fixed’ XML, I am afraid of doing so because my old project is connected to Cinema Tools, etc. I am afraid of loosing synchronization between the two, and having problems with exporting an EDL properly (timeline, negative cut list, window burns match up, etc).

I did shoot film 24fps and audio was recorded at 48.0Khz, 24-Bit Intiger. When I do merge the reverse telecine clips and the imported audio (simply through Import-Files), it does in fact give me the time-code rate of thirty. I know this is wrong, and will cause sync problems.

I need to get the audio to 24 TC.

Is there any guide that would let me batch pull down all my audio to 24 through Pro Tools?
Would I still need to figure out how to tell FCP to interpret that audio properly as well, upon importing after Pro Tools?

Would it make sense, instead, to be picture-locked (which I am, at 29.97fps, too long to explain, I had the wrong workflow but am re-editing, after miniDV recapture, etc. clip by clip in 23.98), and export the XML of the entire sequence and changing the TC of all the ‘merged’ clips in the timeline once editing is complete?

Thank you for all of your help!

Sincerely,
– Boris

[Boris Riabov]

Thanks!

It’s very helpful.
I’m just curious – for entering new audio time code in the XML and for editing with 23.876 clips – I would enter 24 correct?
I wouldn’t enter 23.98 for audio time-code because that only applies to frame rates I’m assuming.
This is referring to the following line in the guide: “It can be a whole number such as 24, 25 or 30.”

-Boris

[Boris Riabov]

Guys,

I don’t have any problems re-logging my footage.
It will be twenty three minutes versus five hours worth of footage.

I’ll be recapturing only select takes from my picture-locked-timeline.
I’ll be able to simply drag them into my correct timeline by using the in and out points of my original 29.97 clips.

I got it.
I didn’t do it properly months ago – and I admit so – which is why I’m here trying to correct myself and my mistakes.
I was too eager to begin editing without the correct preparation.

I’m here now to make sure I’m doing things the right way – and would be highly indebted if I could further post my new workflow (screen-shots for example) and run it by you guys.

Sincerely,
Boris