[Bo Higbee]

Hope this is of help ….

It’s been about 6-8 months, but….

I used to capture off BetaSP with a variety of BMD cards … from Decklink PCI SD cards to Decklink SDI PCIe using a Aja analogue to SDI converter box … everything worked … but, ONLY IF I used the BMD Media Express capture software that comes with the driver downloads.

One thing I did notice was of the 6 or 7 BMD cards I bought off Ebay and played with, I think one card had a intermittent CC capture problem when I would play the file out via another one of my cards, but for the most part all cards captured and played each others captured files with CC correctly.

My work flow was to have the Beta deck output loop directly through (input to output) the Decklink card so I could see the video loop- through WITH THE CAPTIONS on my TV/monitor with the captions turned on … then I would use the BMD Media Express capture software to capture the video with captions and play back the BMD captures to verify the CC signal.

Things started to get funky with captions when using older BMD cards with the newer Adobe Premiere CS5.5 and CS6 and the evolution of BMD drivers around that time.

The only new drivers that I could get to work were:
DesktopVideo 9.5.3 for CS5.5
.. and …
DesktopVideo 9.6.1 for CS5.5+CS6

Beyond ver. 9.6.1 … I stopped trying and went to digital file delivery of my Fishing Show using the Firewire output to tape of my show from PPro CS5.5 and PPro CS6 timelines (since the new PPro can output captions to DV tape) …. and then I turn around and RE-CAPTURE that DV tape with the embedded captions (with a couple seconds of slack at beginning and end of show) … and upload that re-captured 6.5GB file with the captions in the VANC area of the DV signal to the TV station server.

I discovered that it’s the TV station and THEIR conversion software (in my case they use Carbon Coder software and Harris Nexio broadcast servers using the .LXF format) that is important for this whole CC business … and NOT that you bought someone’s $5,000 software package to do caption embedding when your file is going to be re-converted AGAIN at the TV station to their “House Format” anyway.

It turns out that Carbon Coder (and TeleStream encoders, etc.) can work with a variety of CC methods to make a server based file for broadcast servers. All you have to do is find out what your station uses and do research on the web to find out what formats the software will convert … with the CC data intact.

Recently, I’ve been able to encode my captioned shows using the MainConcept Mpeg encoding built into Sony Vegas Video Pro (ver. 10e and above) into SD and HD files and BOTH test shows have been broadcast recently with captions … all because the station uses Carbon Coder conversion software which can see the CC within this particular MainConcept encoded file and transcode as needed.

Ohh … forgot: The settings for line 18, 19, 20, 21 etc … they are only there IF you want to just capture that info off tape and run caption info through a CC decoder, etc. and not the actual video image.

DON’T play with any settings regarding these lines …. just capture the SD 720×486 picture area ONLY and it should work. (The captions are in the active 720×486 picture area.)

Long … not a direct answer, but hope this helps.

Good luck.

[Bo Higbee]

Driver 9.6.4 installs, but not fully … there is no B.S.O.D. though,

… but, it doesn’t work for me. Card does not start.

Driver message = “The Device Cannot Start” (Code 10)

My Hardware:
Decklink SP PCIe card, mobo = Intel 965 chipset, Q6600 cpu @ 2.4Ghz, NVidia GTX 560 1GB, 8GB ram, Raid 0 @ 280-300mb/sec, USB 3.0 card with NEC chipset with latest Reneasis driver.

Software: PremierePro CS5.5 (can’t use PPro CS6 until driver is fixed) … no other software.

This is getting tedious…. going back back to driver 9.5.3

eom.

[Bo Higbee]

I wouldn’t “roll back” the driver … n’or would I install driver over another driver. That just ads to the problem.

Un-install the driver and re-boot PC one or two times to flush temp files hung in pc … then, install next driver.

I would un-install driver BEFORE installing your SP1 just to have a fresh starting point.

I have a Decklink SDI also and it works fine with my PC (older Intel 965 chipset) with driver 9.6.1, but I need component YUV output with XLR audio to my Sony UVW-1800 deck for broadcast … and so I’m using a Decklink SP PCIe card … which, BTW, is listed on BMD driver page as compatible with 9.6.1 …. NOT! … at least not on my PC.

[Bo Higbee]

Rebuilt my PC yesterday with fresh Windows 7 64bit + w/SP1

and tried BMD driver 9.6.1 again on a virgin build …. with my Decklink SP PCIe card.

RESULT:

BSOD crash again with “BAD_POOL_HEADER” message at top of screen.

Works with driver 9.5.3, but can’t use PPro CS6 which needs driver 9.6.1 for performance issue.

eom.

[Bo Higbee]

Tried several times today to install driver 9.6.1 … no go.

… just BSOD and system hang.

Message is “BAD_POOL_HEADER” in BSOB screen … not BAD_POOL_CALLER as previously posted.

Tried adjusting BIOS settings, but have no PCI Express power settings in my BIOS.

Oh, what is one to do with their Decklink SP PCIe board when they want to use Premiere CS6 … which needs driver 9.6.1 to work correctly ?

[Bo Higbee]

The silence here is deafening.

Any updates for this issue yet?

TIA

PC info: DG965WH mobo, Q6600 cpu, 8gb ram, Win7 64, NVidia GTX560, 4 drive Raid @ 280 to 310 Mb/sec. I’m a PC builder, and PC repair tech.

[Bo Higbee]

Regardless…

Everybody has differing hardware set ups and a proper functioning BMD preset (maybe even leaving the Adobe DV presets alone) will add functionality for those wanting to output DV25 and DV50 formats out to tape using BMD hardware with PPro CS6 when all else fails.

FYI …

After more testing I still have REVERSE field DV issues on a DV timeline.

I REALLY think you should go back and look at DV25 and DV50 timeline flickering problems again with hardware GPU enabled. NTSC timelines don’t have the issues that DV format timelines have out to Decklink hardware.

Just take some of your motion video footage (HD or otherwise) and render it to DV and put it on a Adobe DV timeline out to monitor.

eom.

[Bo Higbee]

Just a thought … I don’t do Mac, but I used a Decklink SDI to an BM HDLink Pro box until the other day when I discovered a THIRD output (HDMI) jack on my GTX560 Nvidia graphics card.

I set it up to output Program output in PPRo CS6 and I’m going into a 23″ Samsung 1080p monitor/TV and it works WITHOUT using Decklink HDLink Pro monitoring hardware directly from the graphics card … you just have to set up output device in CS6.

My PC, quad core 2.4ghz oldie, but it works very well … even with 4k test footage playing out at 1/2 res. to 1080p monitor using CUDA help.

If you have a SECOND output (VGA/DVI,etc.) on your graphics card that you’re not using, you may be able to set that for monitoring … even a DVI with a HDMI adaptor maybe … just a thought.

Hope this gives you something you can use.
‘best.

[Bo Higbee]

I’ve been all day trying to upload a 163 meg DV clip to my website and finally had to use a Linux OS from a Live CD and their FTP program to get it there.

DOWNLOAD THIS :44 SECOND DV CLIP FOR TESTING: (save as to your PC)

http://216.92.39.145/DVfootage.avi …(it’s 163 megs)

Look at LEFT yellow shirt sleeve as I walk down plank to boat. Then – any camera pan with fishing rods will show all these flickering issues. (this is my 6-7 year old local cable footage)

My Nvidia card is a GTX560 1GB (Palit brand OC’d).

Only the hardware cuda GPU with REVERSE field checked on the file plays correctly and sharply on a Adobe DV 25 timeline in PPRo CS6 with the output set to Decklink SDI output hardware … from which I convert to NTSC using a AJA D10DCE mini converter. I’m monitoring on an old 27″ PICTURE TUBE Samsung TV/Monitor (this shows the fielding issues). If I use the software only GPU the image goes to crap. It gets VERY SOFT, but it doesn’t flicker… just NOT useable.

NOTE: If I put the same DV 25 footage on an Adobe DV50 timeline preset the same flickering happens, but only half as noticeable and is NOT controllable with ANY settings that I’ve tried. ALSO: When I use the software GPU on the DV50 timeline the footage is TWICE as soft and TWICE as FUZZY as when doing same test on DV25 timeline.

… probably due to DV50 editing is 4.2.2 and the DV 25 editing is 4.1.1 …. maybe … don’t know.

The main thing I see in both the DV25 & DV50 timelines USING SOFTWARE GPU ONLY is the image is stretched vertically, it’s soft and it’s fuzzy.

If you can just port over your DV25 & DV50 presets from CS5.5 and BLOCK the Adobe preset menues so they don’t show when using your driver software package … then this might solve this.

Download my footage clip above and play with it !

… now about that CEA-708 Closed Caption question I posed … ‘ya see I want to get on Outdoor Channel and they require HD programming with CAE-708 captions – either embedded in a file, or in DVCPro HD tape … any clues here ?

As an added note:

The day PPro CS6 was released for trial download I installed it and I played with it for TWO days. When I saw all the issues with CS6 … I ran right over to the B & H website and bought Premiere CS5.5
… WHILE IT WAS STILL AVAILABLE … 🙂

HAVE FUN !

EOM.

[Bo Higbee]

… out of curiosity … for future reference …

I read somewhere recently (Adobe Premiere support website maybe) that CEA-708 Closed Captions don’t work out of Blackmagic Design HD SDI hardware … and that you needed to use the “AHA!” brand hardware to get working CEA-708 closed captions out the HD SDI port to HD broadcast tape, etc.

Could a BMD support person here confirm that this “new” Beta 9.6.1a9 driver will indeed make 708 HD-SDI Closed Captions work correctly out the HD SDI port? (I have no way of testing.)

… or is there a hardware design issue with outputing 708 closed captions?

TIA