Bob Zelin
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Hi Neil –
the TVS-871T, the TVS-1272T and the TVS-1282T3 are all fantastic boxes that can edit 4K all day long for multiple people. Because Thunderbolt 3 can only be 2 meters away from the workstation, it makes it very impractical to use this. It is so simple to get a small 8 port Netgear 10G switch, and some cheap thunderbolt to 10G boxes, and get 800 MB/sec (you need 143 MB/sec to do Red 6K at 5:1 compression).I don’t understand why this reviewer says that the 1282T is an expensive box – it’s $2700 US price, and the larger
TS-1685 (which I truly love – 12 drives, 4 SSD’s and free dual 10Gbase-T ports) is only $300 more !. Exactly what is expensive about this, compared to any other shared storage system.His review and comparison of the Synology is unfair – because if you add 10G port and a minimum of 8 drives to the Synology (and choose the correct model) you will get wonderful results. And while I have never tested the 12 bay Netgear ReadyNAS (which is about $4300) I bet this performs equally well.
The important thing is that high performance shared storage systems have become a commodity item, and are available to anyone at a very affordable price. Prices of thunderbolt adaptors, like the Promise SanLink3 for thunderbolt 3 are now $299 retail, and the new iMac Pro will have free built in 10G ports. It’s rumored that QNAP will have a small 8 port 10G switch soon for $290 (no typing error here).
Of course, all the “established manufacturers” will say all of this is junk. I have no idea of how they will stay in business.
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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so Scott –
is this 531X for your personal use, or for WINK ? Is your intention to simply use this as a single drive, or will you
have multiple people sharing this ? Even for a small workgroup, you can shove the QNAP SFP+ port into a cheap
Netgear XS708T with a Twinax cable, and then have easy Cat 6 connections to 7 computers. No need to mess around with LC Fiber cable and transceivers. And are you using this with Media Composer or something else.
Because if you get Indiestor Mimiq, you can have multiple AVID users on your little system.Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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Hi –
I am responding to this post, based on a financial report from EVS in Belgium. They are falling apart, as well as
AVID and everyone else, including GB Labs. Lets face it – NONE of you can compete with the Chinese companies, that are providing amazing products at ridiculous low prices (that’s right Tom, you cannot pay for your rent or your health insurance for your family). GB Labs, ProMax, etc. CANNOT compete with the ridiculous prices of ALL of the Taiwanese companies that offer these services. And even though YOU have wonderful support – do you know what – Juan Carol Aguirre (and everyone else that is posting on Creative Cow, fcp.co, and all the other forums) wants to spend ZERO money . do you have something that he can spend $2000 for that will solve his problem – NO – then you are FIRED! All the conventional companies that we are familiar with will collapse (just like Houston with Hurricane Harvey) and you are ALL DOOMED. I hope that you saved money in your retirement accounts, because ITS OVER ! Do you understand. No one wants to spend ONE PENNY, and to convince them to spend $2000 or $3000 or “God Forbid” $10,000 – well, it’s not happening – ever again. It’s over.by the way, I re read my post, and I did not mean to target GB Labs, and ProMax – ALL OF YOU American and Western European companies are going to GO OUT OF BUSINESS. ITS OVER. Start planning for your retirement now.
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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your question makes no sense to me . Filmlight FLUX Store can be used as a generic Network Attached Storage system
“The store also appears as a high performance NAS to the rest of the facility using NFS or SAMBA over Ethernet.”
Because it works with SMB, this means that even FCP-X can be shared using FLUX Store. If you want to use AVID Media Composer with FLUX Store, you simply put Indiestor Mimiq on your workstations running Media Composer.it’s all spelled out right here –
https://www.filmlight.ltd.uk/products/flux/flux_store/fxstore_features.phpIf you want to transcode, you use Adobe Media Encoder, Apple Compressor or Imagine Products Prime Transcoder
so exactly what is your question ?
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/duplicate-file-finder-best-fast-free-for-files/id1032755628?mt=12
free on the Mac App store !
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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what can I say Scott – you bought the absolute cheapest QNAP you could find. The TS-831X and TS-531X are the bottom of the barrel products that QNAP offers with a 10G port. Even when configured correctly, you will not get more than 200 MB/sec write speed on the 10G ports.
You did not state how you are connecting your computers . Do you have 10G NIC’s or thunderbolt to 10G adaptors on them.? Are you going into a Netgear 10G switch ? Which switch ?
There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to be using iSCSI. You simply create a single static Volume, and use SMB. And like Alex said, disable SMB signing. 5 drives will give you slower speeds than 8 drives. And you said you have 2M of memory – you mean 2 Gig of RAM – correct ? You need 16 Gig of RAM to have a reliable system. Did you buy this as a toy to screw around with, or as a professional product. I personally own a TS-531X (With 3 drives in it), just so I can play with all the features, learn the product, and test new firmware releases from QNAP. I would never use this model as a professional system.
The least expensive system that I would recommend for professional use is the TVS-871T, which is about $2600.
And you are using old crappy Seagate drives – if you had newer WD RED, or HGST NAS drives, you would get increased performance.No matter what you purchased, without a 10G adaptor on your Mac, and using the 10G ports on the QNAP (or any other manufacturer like Synology, etc.), you will never get more than 100 MB/sec per client.
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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1) what server are you using
2) what editing software are you using ?
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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Hi –
the problem is that even if you had the exact SCSI 1 card it was connected to, there are no drivers available for it any longer. If it was originally an AVID SCSI 1 drive, it’s a Seagate SCSI drive that was connected to an ATTO SCSI host adaptor (probably in an old Mac computer).Then you say, it was connected to a PC (what PC) – Windows NT, Windows 95, Windows 98 ? I assume it’s not a RAID, so from the stone age, I am going to assume that it’s an Adaptec SCSI 1 card. So the most reliable way to get this to run is to find an old PC of this vintage (which should be available on ebay for 10 bucks and shipping) but you need the Adaptec SCSI 1 adaptor and SCSI 1 Centronics 50 pin cable (good luck finding that).
Isn’t there a way to adapt this, with some stuff from Newegg or Other World Computing to USB, Firewire so you can get it to run on your Mac at home – ABSOLUTELY NOT. If it was important, you should have transferred it.
SO, in case you are thinking about this, and saying “what a shame” – when you take pictures or little movies of your daughter, and possibly grand daughter/son in the near future, and those are wonderful memories for you, and you want to see them in 20 years, you must TRANSFER YOUR DATA either to modern media of the day, and if you will be 80 in 20 years, and can’t be bothered with all that stuff, then PAY for a cloud site storage, so they can take care of it for you. Because you could buy a new camera today, with a SanDisk SD card, shoot wonderful pictures of your grandchild, and you will NOT be able to see them in 20 years, unless you keep transferring the data to modern formats, or have a cloud site do this for you.
There ain’t no free lunch. Never has been, never will be. Want to see those 8mm films of your grandparents – get prepared to PAY someone to do this for you.
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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everyone responding is correct. Believe me, I would love to show you a NAS workflow, but you don’t need it.
A nice boring G-Tech Studio XL, or Promise Pegasus thunderbolt RAID is all you need. If you need something smaller than 8 drives, G-Tech, Promise, Cal Digit, Akitio, and OWC all make perfectly fine products for what you are looking for.While you can find entry level QNAP’s for less than a G-Tech or Promise, these are not plug and play products, and require setup (translation – paying someone to help you) – so you are best off with one of the above mentioned products.
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
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Hi –
I would like to add an additional comment to Salvador’s observation.
If the QNAP was a disaster, and corrupted everyone’s data, and no one could recover from drive failure, you will see countless posts on all kinds of forums – particularly on Creative Cow and the QNAP forum stating –
“oh my God – what a piece of crap this QNAP is – I lost all my data” –
but obviously, with thousands of units on the market, this has not happened, nor do you see any complaints (other than the stray article) that there is even an issue.The QNAP works fine, and is perfect for video editing.
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com