[Bob Spez]

Hi Jeff,
Just saw your response today. I appreciate your comprehensive suggestions. I have saved your response and will utilize your suggestions the next time I upgrade.

I did realize my video card was not on the Adobe list to use the Mercury engine, but I wasn’t aware of how much that upgrade would increase the speed of rendering and exporting. I will look for an i7 2600 / GTX 750-60 system the next time I buy a used system on ebay.

I’m a retired unix sys admin and am just a video hobbyist and only create a few videos a year to post on my youtube channel, so the slower export times don’t effect me that much. I can let the export run while watching some TV shows or having dinner. But I do enjoy problem solving and testing my system, cameras, software, etc.

Right now I’m using a 500GB usb2 verbatim pocket drive as the second drive to render and export CS6 videos to. Do you think updating to a usb3 pocket drive would be faster or slower than a using a second 7200 SATA drive?

Thanks for sharing your knowlege.

Bob

[Bob Spez]

Hi Samuele,
Glad you figured out how to get back in production with a new hard drive.
Best of luck.

[Bob Spez]

Samuele,
Like many questions asked here, you may not have gotten an answer but you have learned which things did not cause your problem, and the discussion prompted you to find the dust problem. If that was the problem, then maybe heat was the issue. Do you have your desktop tower in a spot where it can get air from all sides (except the bottom)? Anyway, it seems like you are making progress and have had some success already, congratulations. These discussions often start us thinking in ways that bring us to our own solutions.
It is great that you have a lot of work. Are you a profesional video editor? Bob

[Bob Spez]

Hi Samuele,
Regarding your question on the intel i7 processor. In my reply to Jeff I mentioned that my system used the i7-870 processor at 2.93HHz, overclocked to 3.08GHZ and 16GBof RAM. I have heard that the i7 worked well with with Premiere Pro CS6 64 bit, which I had. I also am using Win10 Pro 64 bit OS.
I should add that my desktop, a used HP Z200 with a ATI FirePro V4800 Graphics Adapter with 1GB video RAM, was not an expensive system It only cost me $250 on ebay 6 months ago. I added 8GB of system RAM I had from my previous desktop to bring the system up to 16GB of RAM.
If you look at the tests I reported in today’s answer to Jeff, you can see that adding Premiere Pro effects, especially adjusting the lighting, caused the biggest encrement in export time. A one minute 1920 x 1080 24fps mp4 file took just 93 seconds to export with no effects to H.264, 1980×1020 mp4 file. When I cut the file into 5 segments, added 6 transitions, zoomed into different parts of the frame on 4 of the 5 segments, changed the lighting on all 5 segments and did color grading on all 5 segment, the export time went up to 6 minutes and 10 seconds.

Bob

[Bob Spez]

Hi Jeff,

Based on your comments and the fact your system is not that different from mine I decided to do some testing with my Adobe CS6 Premiere Pro 64 bit software.

My desktop is an HP Z200 Desktop Core i7-870 @ 2.93GHz (over clocked to 3.07GHz), 16GB DDR3 RAM, 1TB HD, Windows 10 Pro 64bit, ATI FirePro V4800 Graphics Adapter with 1GB video RAM. I export my files to a USB 2.0 500GB pocket drive.

For the test I used as an input file a one minute video clip of me panning across my CD cabinet and the walls around it. This input clip was an mp4 file, 1920×1018, 24fps, bitrate of 3700kbps, with mono sound.

The first thing I did was export it to an avi file set to same settings as input. Like you, I exported this 1 minute file in just 58 seconds. A tiny bit faster than real time.

However since I prefer H.264 mp4 file output, I exported it to that format.
The export time was 93 sec. or 155% of real time. The output file was 34 MB,
1920×1080, bitrate of 4700 kbs, with stereo sound, 1 minute long.

The next thing I did was export it with the media encoder, and you were correct, the media encoder was no faster than the export button, it was a bit slower at 105 sec, or 175% of real time.

For the rest of the test I incrementally added the type of Premiere Pro effects that I usually use, exporting the file each time with an additional effect added to the ones already on the timeline. They were all Premiere Pro effects, no third party plugins. I did not pre-render any of the effects. (Normally I would pre-render effects as I add them to see how they will look on the exported file.) The output file size and properties remained the same.

This is where the added export time increased the 93 seconds it took to export the one minute file to H.264 mp4, with no effects added..

1. Cut the sequence into 5 segments. Added 4 film dissolve transitions and a dip to black transition at the start and end of the video.
Export time increased to 2 min. 56 sec (293% of Realtime).

2. Zoomed into different parts of the frame on 4 of the 5 segments.
Export time increased to 3 min. 6 sec (310% of Realtime).

3. Adjusted the lighting (ambient lighting and spotlight) on all 5 segments.
Export time increased to 5 min. 38 sec. (563% of Realtime).
Adjusting the lighting produced the largest incremental increase to the export time.

4. Did color grading with the Fast Color Corrector on all 5 segments.
Export time increased to 6 min. 10 sec (617% of Realtime).

Thank you for your reply, it encouraged me to figure out what was causing the increase above Realtime for my exports. Based on these tests, it seems it is the adding of Premiere Pro effects to the timeline. It also appears my system is set up and functioning properly.

Bob

[Bob Spez]

P.S. Jeff,
I reread your post and saw you did not say you could export a 3 hour 200GB file in three hours. My mistake. You just said you could export it quickly. So my first question would be how long does it take you to export a 200GB 3 hour video?

Extrapolating my current speed of 20 minutes to export a 4 minute video, it would take me 5 hours to export a 1 hour video, or 15 hours to export a 3 hour video. If your export times are substantially faster than mine, then please answer my other settings and configuration question when you have the time. Thank you.
Bob

[Bob Spez]

Hi Jeff,
Just curious,
1.What export settings (codec, fps, frame size, etc.) do you use?

2.What are the specs for your system (CPU type, Video card type and video RAM, System RAM).

3.How much memory do you allocate to Premiere Pro in preferences?

3. What are the properties of your exported video (resolution, baud rate, fps, video length and video file type and size)?

4. What OS and version of Premiere Pro are you using?

5. Are your clips all pre-rendered prior to export? What resolution do you render at?

I apologize for all the above questions, but I’d like to know specifically what settings and system configuration can export a 200GB video in three hours.

I thought I was doing well, over the course of a year, by getting a 4 minute export down from 9 hours to 20 minutes. If you have the answer on how to do a quick export with 1080P resolution, I would surely appreciate it, and so would many others.

None of the many responses on this and other forums regarding speeding up of Preiere Pro 1080P exports (1920×1080, 24fps) yielded any results for me other than updating my OS and system and using the Media Encoder. I was able to render faster by lowering the rendering resolution.

Hope you can provide the details I requested as they would make your reply testable for myself and others.

[Bob Spez]

I think most people have problems with the time required to export videos on Premiere Pro. I did. I am now using Premiere Pro CS6 64bit, and I now allocate 11GB of RAM to Premiere. I use a separate hard drive to export to.

With my old system and allocating 6GB of RAM to Premiere Pro, it was taking me 9 hours to export 4 minutes of video (two video and two audio tracks). None of my exported files was more than 2 GB.

Last year I upgraded my cpu to Intel i7, my video card and RAM, I upgraded to Win 10 64bit. It was still taking 45 minutes to export 2 audio and two video tracks, in 1080P, totaling less than 4 minutes in total length, after pre-rendering them at low resolution.

Then someone on this forum (the only one who made this suggestion) suggested when I open the export window in Premiere Pro to export my video, I click on the queue button, instead of the export button. The Queue button uses the Adobe Media Encoder to do the export rather than the standard export. This brought my export time down to 20 minutes.

I don’t even know if Adobe is capable of exporting 50GB or larger files like you have. A commercial full length movie is only about 4GB. I don’t understand why your files are so large. Maybe you need to pre-process your clips to get them down to 1080P with a smaller file size (like reducing your baud rate to something like 6K, at 24fps).

[Bob Spez]

Here is a link to the the original and graded images side by side. Click twice on the smaller of the two images.

https://images.creativecow.net/302750

While grading can make the image more saturated and vibrant and give it the appearance of greater contrast, it can’t correct for fuzzy focus.

I looked at your video again and realized you were shooting from across the street as cars passed between the camera and subject. Telephotos tend to get soft, the further away they are from the subject. If you shot closer with a wider angle lens I think you would get more of what you are looking for.

[Bob Spez]

Here’s the link to my image.
https://images.creativecow.net/302750
It wound up in my Creative Cow image wall. Click twice on the thumbnail to get it full size.