[Blake Gibson]

Thanks John. So this gets around the iosurrogate 32bit issue? Thats great. My question is, is cineform the best option? In your first reply you said “Maybe Cineform or Sony MXF”, and Aaron says HDCAM-SR might be really good too and won’t have the same issues as prores/dnxhd.

I had a look at your link, does it convert to any other files too? Like Sony MXF or something just in case Cineform isn’t the best option?

[Blake Gibson]

Aaron, when you say “Make sure to do your conversion in FP32 video levels, or you will lose your 10bit video information, and end up with 8-bit files inside broadcast codec.” Do you mean when making the proxies make sure the project is 32bit floating? Because doesn’t it link back to the originals when exporting anyway? I normally export in 10bit DNXHD from Vegas and I’ve checked in mediainfo and it retains the 10bit. (this is good to know even if proxies are not going to work for my current dilemma).

I’m not exactly clear on whether or not you’re saying I can render/export from Vegas as a different format, eg: drop my prores files into vegas, render/export out as something else more vegas friendly (I noticed Vegas has a cineform option under AVI) and have them all as seperate files even though they’re all in the one timeline in Vegas. This would be good as I need to convert all my prores files for this project.

Sorry but I’m a bit confused!

That said, going back to your original post, what is the best way to convert to HDCAM-SR? If from Vegas, again: is it possible to batch process a selection of files (say 30 at a time to get around the iosurrogate error) them all as seperate files?

Thanks!

[Blake Gibson]

John, I downloaded gopro studio and it doesn’t seem to recognise the prores files, or DNXHD files. It regonises my h264 files from canon 5D3 though.

[Blake Gibson]

John, I was doing some more reading and saw some more of your posts in other threads and saw that DNXHD has the same issue as Quicktime, so I guess that’s out. I’ve committed to the fact that I will have to transcode all my footage to some more vegas friendly, which I don’t mind as I can batch process and leave it overnight.

So what do you think the best option would be? Cineform AVI, HDCAM or MXF? I’m just concerned about the quality loss. Grading will probably be a LUT i’ve already selected with light colour correction (saturation mainly, a bit of 3-way colour wheels) but I would like to keep the 10bit 422 and high bitrate if possible all the way until delivery, which will be online (YT/Vimeo etc), export via DNXHD 185 10bit.

Downloading gopro studio now to test out.

Sorry that my replies are all over the shop!

[Blake Gibson]

Thanks Aaron,

Its 1080 25p and prores hq (10 bit 422)

What would be the best way to convert to HDCAM? Any free programs? (I’ll be looking later on after work too), if you mean convert within Vegas, John was saying earlier that that might not work because its linking back to the original prores files for exporting. Of course, I can try a sample as you suggested.

At this point I just want to get through this particular video and then I might think about using premiere for larger projects and Vegas for the smaller stuff I do (I really do like Vegas very much). So converting my prores files to something might else might be the easiest way to go, initially I’m thinking DNXHD as I’m more familiar with it and I really don’t want to lose any quality of this project

[Blake Gibson]

Sorry Bob, Specs are: Windows 7 64bit, 8gb ram DDR3 1600mhz, i7 processor (4479k LGA1150 3x5ghz 8mb cache haswell), mother board is asus 787m-plus. My video fils are on an internal 4TB 3.5″ HDD that is running through a USB 3 HDD caddy

Nested Veg files is something I’ve never heard of. It looks interesting and I’ll have to experiment with it, but I’m rushed for this project as its a paying client. Is it practical in terms of being able to export as 1 video and edit freely?

I checked VASST, it appears that you’re referring to a vegas plug in that will manage proxies for me? I honestly don’t mind generating the proxies if it’s going to work, its fine. But I’m not even sure if proxies in this case will work. I don’t even know if the proxies worked as it feels and looks exactly the same as it did when editing native prores files in my timeline.

[Blake Gibson]

Thanks so much for all the replies guys, pure gentlemen! I’m pretty stressed about this because its my first proper paid gig and this client does lots of events so a chance for return business etc. I’m not sure how to make a post to a thread, it’s only letting me reply to people.

Anyway, thanks for the response John,

OK that makes sense, I was speaking to a guy that routinely edites using premiere CC on windows and edits with large prores hq files and h264 over 500 clips and doesn’t have any issues, so its’ not a windows issue, just a vegas issue like you said.

What about if I transcode to DNXHD and start again? I normally export to DNXHD anyway and then through handbrake (h264) for web delivery, do you think vegas will still die like you mentioned as well? I seem to remember something about DNXHD exporting being linked to quicktime in some way so maybe not. (the final video will only be 3-4 minutes)

I thought this is what creating proxies was for, isn’t it supposed to transcode it into a more edit friendly format, then link back to the originals for exporting? And I’m exporting to DNXHD…

[Blake Gibson]

Graham, we can only hope they somehow figure it out for VP14 😀

[Blake Gibson]

Graham, I see your point for the most part for things like LUT support. But for things like whitebalance, highlights and shadows, OMF export and 10 bit project, they really should get on this because their direct competitors are offering these things as standard and they are losing customers because of it. I myself am considering going to premiere but I really like Vegas. I actually already have a 1 year subscription to Abode CC that a friend gave me a month or 2 ago, but I haven’t used it yet because I like Vegas that much.

And it’s not just me, in my searching and browsing I have seen many people jump ship to premiere or another system from Vegas because of stuff like this. Even LUT support should be implemented IMO.

[Blake Gibson]

John: I can move the top/right/highlights corner point down, as long as I click on it first. I can’t just click and drag it down, I have to click, wait, then click and drag. Likewise with the bottom/left/shadows. I don’t have to do what you said.

But I can’t figure out how move the highlights corner point to the left horizontally along the top, and the shadows corner point to the right horizontally along the bottom