Benjamin Lundin
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[Dave Fleming] “When does it ship?
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I’m not sure, I would like to know that too. From what I’ve heard it could be in May or in July, but I’m not sure.
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[Todd Kopriva] “Gareth Edwards edited Monsters in Premiere Pro. See this for details.
Premiere Pro was also used in various capacities on The Social Network, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Hugo, Act of Valor, and Avatar.”
Wow I have never seen that video, great! Finally a big movie on Premiere. I have to say, adobe are good when it comes to promoting themselves.
When I saw a video on adobes webpage about when “the social network” used After Effects I just thought to myself, ‘the whole thing would be a lot easier for you if you would just cut the movie on Premiere instead. I wonder if Angus Wall will change software soon or stay with fcp 7.
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[Richard Cardonna] “p.s. Not to mention the new lightroom 4 with its video capabilities including trimming and some color correction.”
This is an awesome feature. But from what I’ve heard you have to create presets for each individual clip you want to have color corrected in lightroom. If only adobe could include some of the Photoshop/Lightroom corrections in Premiere Pro. That would be great!
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This is getting really silly man. Years of editing in MC 6? Check the release date and you will be surprised how fast the time is passing by, I mean when “years” actually means 4 months..
And with all that correcting of your mouse clicks and all that. You still don’t listen to me? Smart tools makes it easier than Premiere. In premiere, if you want to a rolling edit, you have to move your mouse –> press N –> go to your clip and change it, and then press V to go back to normal tool. In Avid you just go to the clips and drag directly. In Premiere you have to hold Ctrl to do a ripple edit, in Avid you don’t have to.
It’s not the matter of “how many clicks” it takes. It’s a matter of the time is takes, and what resaults it gives to you.
Trimming without smart tools in MC is not faster than in Premiere, but it’s not slower either. But it gives me the ability to do exact edits. If I want to I can go frame by fram. In Premiere, you have to zoom in to the timeline to actually be able to trim frame by fram.
I will end this discussion now. I’m not mad at you and I hope you’re not mad at me. I’m not against Premiere, in fact I’ve used it much more than Avid. All I’m saying is that I think that the Avid trim tools are better than what they are in Premiere. I could say that it’s a fact, but that would just raise the hate against me, so I won’t.
It all comes down to what you’re comfortable with using. If you think Premiere it most fitted for you, you should without any doubt go with Premiere. In the end, It’s just what’s on the screen that matters 🙂
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[Steve Brame] “So with MC it’s a couple of keypresses, then a click, then a mouse-click, then a bunch of keypresses instead of PPro where you press one key then drag the edit point. Sounds MUCH easier – and SMART! :>)
Suffice to say that it’s all a matter of personal preference, and simply a preference over trimming styles isn’t a solid reason for an editing platform to not be considered able to handle a feature film.”
You know, you hear what you want to hear. Have you heard that expression? I made it very clear in my post how to trim in Avid but all you got from that was:
“So with MC it’s a couple of keypresses, then a click, then a mouse-click, then a bunch of keypresses”
Really? If you would read my post again, you would actually see that I sad that if you want to use your mouse to trim, it’s acutally easier in Avid than in Premiere, if you ask me.
Try to be open and not compare everything to your Premiere. Some thing are done with fewer clicks in Premiere, and some aren’t. It’s about workflow, and I don’t say Premiere is not as good as Avid, I’m saying the trimming is better.
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It depens if you’re using the smart tools or not.
If you have your smart tools on, it is in fact EASIER than in premiere. You just go to your clip, make sure the tool turn yellow at the cut, and then just drag it however you want. I don’t go into details here, but google it and you will find that it is very easy.
I prefer to do it with my keyboard. I just go near where the cut is with my marker, press the “U” button to go into trim mode. If I want to trim the clip to the left I click on the source monitor, or if you want to trim the clip on the right of the marker you just press the composer (right monitor). Then you kan either trim with your keys or use j-k-l tro trim in real time. Trimming in real time is an amazing feature to, that only exists on avid. It does exist on fcpx, but not in the same good way.
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Thanks for the help Daniel. You provide some good info to this thread.
Apparently, my reply I did just a minute ago came higher up in the thread, just because I replied to someone up there. But I replied to you too so you can check that out. You could say the CC Forums reply system is as good as Premieres trimmming. It works, but not 100%.
Yes, I like a lot in Premiere, but as you say, when it comes to the basics of editing it’s not working 100% well. Trimming is maybe the most important thing for professional editors that are editing footage all day long, and for that reason Avid wins. But once again, I’m not doing any kind of “vs” thread here, I just want to know what you think about PPro and what could be better.
If I could create a mix between PPro and Avid it would probably be the best editing software today. True story :).
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CLIFF: That sounds great! That’s a lot of footage!
STEVE: Since Media Composer 5 you can trim right on the timeline. And by the way, going in to trim mode is one of the fastest things to do. If you know the keyboard commands you can trim very fast in Avid.
DANIEL: I couldn’t agree more! Iv’e edited on Avid for some time, and the trimming is amazing. I just can’t lie about that. It’s so easy to to exact edits with your keyboard. I also find the Avid timeline to be more solid. It’s so easy to get a prespective of how everythiing is.
But again, Premiere has it’s good sides. To work nativly works way better in Premiere than in Avid (AMA). It also feels like Premiere is easier to experiment with than Avid. It’s also easier to do cool looking texts and effects.
But like you sad, as an editor, if I know that I’m only gonna get everything on the timeline and trim a lot and not deal with so many effects, Avid is the way to go!
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CLIFF:
I think that a lot of what you say is right. Me myself looked at premiere like that, before I used it.
Haha, yes that’s true. If they don’t care for PPro they won’t listen to the good things until someone acutally shows them.
Yes there’s some things that I don’t like at all in premiere, which I hope to see a improvement on in CS6. A big one is the timeline trimming. I don’t see why there shouldn’t be a way to trim directly on the timeline without having to open the trim windows. I know, I sound lazy, but I like to trim a lot and I do it often, so it’s something stopping me from getting a fast workflow.
Let me ask you something. How did the media management go on that big project? I’m not a big fan of the Premiere media management, so it would be interesting to know if it was a problem to you..?
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Great idea but I didn’t get it to work. It wouldn’t drop on to the timeline.