Andy Patterson
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Adobe’s markers are not bad but they could be better. Look what BMD did with DR and then look at my feature requests for Premiere Pro’s markers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA1m6jeTf_M&t=190s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNi224djHbQ
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[Tony West] “[andy patterson] “We paid a lot but got less than the CS 4.0 to CS 5.5 upgrade. We all paid for the upgrade regardless if it was worth it or not. ”
If I’m reading you right, it almost sounds like you are saying there is a point where they could price themselves out of the market by charging more than people think the program is worth.
Obviously there is a cap. If they charged 1000 a month people would say I’m not paying that.
So how far can they go before they hit a realistic cap?”
My point is before we could decide if the upgrade was worth it or not. Now we pay no matter what. We also used to get the DVDs. I would prefer the DVDs as opposed to downloading the software. I admit you still need to download the updates with the DVDs but at least you have something if you wanted to wipe and reload the OS. Like I stated this upgrade was not that great. CS 4.0 to 5.0 was great. CS 5.0 to 5.5 was good and so was CS 5.5. to CS 6.0.
Look what BMD did with DR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA1m6jeTf_M&t=136s
Also look at my request for Adobe from last year (below). I would not have upgraded this year if we still had the CS paradigm. Like I always say where will Avid, FCXP, BMD and Adobe all be in another 2-3 years form now. Will DR be free? Adobe needs to bring it’s A-Game ASAP and look at the competition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNi224djHbQ
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[Oliver Peters] “andy patterson] “As of now Apple and BMD do a better job of that price wise than Adobe.”
Apple and BMD have hardware sales to provide additional financial development support. Adobe and Autodesk do not have that.”
Adobe didn’t own hardware back in the CS days either. I am not saying the CC is super horrible or super expensive. I am saying the older CS paradigm was better. I myself would not have upgraded this year and with the CS paradigm I would not have to.
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We do not have the actual DVDs. On a side not we also have more bugs. The latest upgrade for Premiere Pro was not all that great. Who would have upgraded? We paid a lot but got less than the CS 4.0 to CS 5.5 upgrade. We all paid for the upgrade regardless if it was worth it or not. That would not be the case with the CS system. Adobe did not take my request serious but BMD did! We got less than the BMD customers. Adobe could and should be doing a lot more as demonstrated by BMD.
Would you now agree we get less and pay more?
The old CS system was much better and Adobe knows it. I say bring back the CS paradigm and let me know how many people opt for the CC at $49.99 a month VS the CS version. At $14.95 a month more people would probably opt for the CC paradigm instead of the CS paradigm. See my point?
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[Oliver Peters] “You won’t have that option with most of the leading software-only product companies. They’ve all realized that subscription is the best viable way to move forward and continue to fund development in a predictable fashion.”
I agree it is good for the company but bad for the customer. Having said that I would not mind the Creative Cloud if it was $14.99 a month. At $49.99 a month we are paying more and getting less. The Phone companies have lowered their prices and offered much better plans from what they were 2 years ago. I hope Adobe does the same. Adobe and Apple used to offer inexpensive alternatives to Avid’s MC. As of now Apple and BMD do a better job of that price wise than Adobe.
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My setup for external audio and video gear has changed over the years. I myself like using the Intensity Shuttle with broadcast equipment but it is not for everyone.
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You can start to watch the video at 6:40-7:40. If that does not work then you should try a different driver. Sometimes the drivers are buggy.
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Not sure what audio and video gear you would need but I have a new setup.
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Keep in mind that is a hackintosh and the AMD card has some bugs in it. Speed is not everything.
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[Steve Connor] “Perhaps we should start a separate forum for the Titling abilities of NLE’s?”
Not really. I don’t think the Premiere Pro naysayers will be bad mouthing Premiere Pro’s titling tools anymore because bad mouthing the Premiere Pro’s titling capabilities would be like bad mouthing the titling capabilities of Photoshop and InDesing.