Andrew Kimery
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Doing the HDV to ProRes capture, IIRC, only gives you Capture Now functionality, strips out the original TC, and gives you 1440×1080 ProRes files. I only mention the last part because in the past I’ve had odd issues with’thin raster’ ProRes files (which were fixed be re-exporting that offending clips at full raster then cutting them back into the timeline). I didn’t do extensive testing, so maybe it was just dumb luck, but I got the feeling that ProRes is ‘expected’ to be full raster and it was the thin raster that was the source of my problems.
I’ve done the HDV or XDCAM EX in a ProRes sequence workflow on dozens of TV shows w/o problems of note that I can remember. I feel like it’s getting the best of both worlds.
Just another opinion to think about.
-Andrew
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[Lance Bachelder] “But nine of these shows was “edited” in Premiere, it was just used in the workflow – big difference.”
I’d bet Act of Valor was edited on Premiere. Bandito Bros are pretty Adobe-centric.
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[Daniel Frome] “It’s funny. The “flocking back to Avid” definitely seems to be happening, but they aren’t buying Avid’s money-maker systems (ISIS, etc), just the edit software.”
I’m sure places that are large enough to be in ISIS territory either already have one or already have a large enough data infrastructure in place that changes on this scale take a couple of years to implement.
[Chris Kenny] “IMO the framing in the discussion of FCP X has always been wrong. It was viewed as an instant failure because it wasn’t a drop-in replacement for FCP 7. But it’s not FCP 7’s successor in any technical sense. It’s a new product. FCP X is properly viewed as a promising challenger that needs some time to mature, and I think people would have recognized this had it been from a company other than Apple or had Apple’s messaging been better.”
Maybe that’s why Apple killed FCP 7 right off the bat? They knew that few people, given the choice, would start using FCP X in any meaningful way if FCP 7 was still around.
[Chris Kenny] “As we saw with ‘classic’ FCP, the way to succeed in the long run is to get the ‘kids’ using your product today. Having user interface that new users bounce off of is fatal in the long run.”
I think that’s only part of it. I’d be very surprised if having FCP classic used on high end productions, and having very successful people evangelizing for it, didn’t play a large role in creating a halo effect. At $295 + 4 years of free updates Avid’s EDU license is pretty freaking compelling. Sure, the UI has a steeper learning curve but if you want to edit movies and the editors you want to be like use Avid…
A couple of NAB’s ago Avid showed a prototype of what it thinks cloud-based editing could be and they arguably have the best editing software on the iPad right now so who knows where the future takes us. Maybe Avid knows that its ‘local hardware’ products (I/O cards, ISIS) aren’t going to be enough anymore so they start offering cloud base solutions at both enterprise and boutique levels.
[Chris Kenny] “The modern Apple rarely kills is own in-house products (acquisitions are another story), and there is no particular indication that FCP X is being starved for developer resources.”
While there is of course no direct evidence of the FCPX team not getting much love, Apple is known for keeping its teams lean and mean and moving them around to the products that need the most support as opposed to expanding during busy times. Apple delayed development of Leopard to put more resources towards the iPhone launch so I don’t think they are beyond starving FCP X development for, well, just about anything iDevice or Cloud related. I think the very un-Apple-like hijacking of the SuperMeet last year and the launch itself is evidence that things weren’t running smoothly when it came to FCPX (at least at that time).
-Andrew
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It seems like no niche is safe from having its ego deflated. I can only imagine how a colorist who climbed the ladder and ‘earned’ the right to fly a DaVinci must feel right now seeing it included as a freebie w/a $3k camera. Has to be a kick to the nuts on some level.
But that’s just the way it goes and it’s been going like that for a long time. At some point we’ll totally bottom out, people will say that no one will ever need an editor, colorist, VFX artist ever again and we’ll all wonder why we didn’t listen to our parents and become doctors or whatever.
And then something odd will happen.
People will go, “Holy crap. This editing/VFX/coloring thing is hard. You need like talent and knowledge and stuff. I didn’t realize it could be so complicated and time consuming. Screw doing it myself I’m just going to hire someone.” All will be right in the world again.
Pretty much anyone can get their hands on a soccer ball, guitar or pencil & paper but that doesn’t mean anyone can play in the Premiere League, become a successful musician, or pen a best selling novel.
-Andrew
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[Craig Seeman] “MacMax staring in “Beyond the Thunderbolt””
Yup, no topping that. I bow to your punny prose.
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MacMax sounds too much like Mad Max. What about Omega Mac?
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Mac Super Pro?
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[Craig Seeman] “The only obvious problem would be the inconvenience having to disconnect the monitor if there were things in front of it in the chain you wanted to remove. There’s also the issue of many TB devices not having pass through so in many cases that’s not possible such as with Blackmagic or Matrox Video I/O. AJA IO XT has pass through.”
Agreed. Multiple ThB ports would make sense on all of Apple’s computers (w/the exception of the Air). Bye-bye FW800?
-Andrew
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[Craig Seeman] “So far, the only Thunderbolt monitor I know of is Apple’s.
Stick a display port monitor in there and you’ve lost the pass through.”Since non-Apple computers are just now coming out w/ThB I’m sure it will take a year or so for non-Apple monitors to get to market.
As long as display port terminates the loop I thought it could be ThB up until that point. So you couldn’t loop thru a monitor using display port but you could end at a monitor using display port.
-Andrew
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[Craig Seeman] ”
Just to be clear, my stretched tangent is that the $3000 Power Box becomes a $5000 purchase given the two Thunderbolt monitors needed/desired. It’s part of my thinking in how Apple might make the Power Box into something a bit more viable for them as far as locking the creative pro into an Apple ecosystem.”I didn’t read the whole thread so apologies if I missed something vital, but I don’t see how you get locked into Apple’s monitors since ThB isn’t Apple exclusive and ThB doubles as a Display Port.
-Andrew
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