Andrew Kimery
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[Bill Davis] “That CGC gets some love here directly from Apple PR seems contrary to that narrative.
That’s all.”
Ah, I get what you are saying now. Thanks for the clarification, Bill.
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[Bill Davis] “The links are interesting.
The Education package, Premium Beat, Color Grading Central, etc, etc.”Maybe I’m behind the times since I haven’t been using X that long, but is this a big deal because X couldn’t import third party LUTs before? Or X could, but Apple never really advertised that as much as now?
[Noah Kadner] “Fair comment but I don’t think that’s endemic to Apple now is it?”
In general no, but if Avid made this same claim around MC they could easily point to a laundry list of Best Picture and/or Best Film Editing Oscar wins for films cut on MC.
[Brett Sherman] “So there are absolutely no “award winning Hollywood films” edited on X? Sometimes I’m amazed at how people misread things. You’ll note it doesn’t say “Oscar” or “Emmy”. And “Hollywood films” is a spongy term.”
And that’s point of using ‘weasel words’ in marking materials. The wording is specific enough for the audience to get what the author is implying, but vague enough that the author can’t deny making explicitly make false statements.
By saying “Hollywood” Apple implies a major studio production and coupling that with “award winning” and the first thing that people will think of is the Oscars. It’s fairly obvious that Apple wants readers to ‘fill in the blanks’ and come away with the impression that X has been used to edit some of the famous Hollywood films they’ve seen and those films have won some of the famous Hollywood awards they’ve heard about. Which is certainly better from a marketing standpoint than mentioning films most people haven’t heard of and awards from festival that most people didn’t know existed.
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[Steve Connor] “The fact that a major release of FCPX has happened and there isn’t a vast amount of discussion on here about it I think confirms Bill’s theory that this isn’t a place that FCPX users like to hangout any more.”
The major 10.4 features were revealed in October and got thoroughly discussed at the time though. Sure they just launched, but there’s not really anything new to talk about right now except any bugs and minor changes that got released. After a few weeks of being in the wild I’m sure we’ll start hearing about the good, and the band, of the new 360 tools, grading tools, etc.,.
Also, anyone is free to start a new thread (currently there are at least two about 10.4) so if you don’t think 10.4 content on enough FCP X content then start new threads on 10.4 or FCP X. ☺
I agree with Bill that this place isn’t like FCP.co, the Final Cut Pro X Editors group on FB, or even the FCP X forum here on the COW and, IMO, it shouldn’t be because those places (and many other likes them) already exist. Typically birds of a feather flock together so websites, FB groups, forums, etc., try to capitalize on that tendency to gather large audiences of like minded people to talk about the thing(s) they like about each other.
This place is the only forum I can think of (outside of some political forums) that actively invites dissent. The point of this place is not have people with homogeneous POVs talking about how great their POV is, but to have people with heterogeneous POVs constantly testing each other.
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[Steve Connor] “But that’s not a particularly good analogy”
Are any analogies in here particularly good analogies? Anyway, talk to Bill, he started it. ????
All other things being equal I’d rather invest $7200 (the cost of the iMac Pro I’d get if I was going to get one) in a hardware system that had a longer useable life span, lower overall cost of ownership and flexibility to adapt to my future needs. Hypothetically I could spend $7200 now and another $7200 in 3-4 yrs for a whole new Mac vs spending $7200 now and maybe $2500-$3500 over the next 5-6 years on upgrades. I’ve always been more comfortable with getting a modest/mid-line machine and upgrading along the way (since computing power just gets faster and cheaper as time goes on) as opposed to paying more upfront for machine that’s initially overkill for my needs in hopes that I’ll grow to need its capabilities down the line. Just different ways to skin the cat.
[Steve Connor] “Going back to your camera analogy, why would anyone invest in a 4K Camera today that you can’t upgrade to 8K down the line? Because you get your ROI on it and then you move on.”
Didn’t Jannard start RED in part because he thought building modular and upgradeable camera systems was a superior approach? 😉
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[Bill Davis] “One can spend $5-6k on a DSLR with a few lenses without breaking a sweat. “
But would you spend the same amount on a ‘sealed-box’ point and shoot that had a non-removable lens, non-removable battery, and non-removable storage?
The price by itself isn’t objectionable. The computer by itself isn’t objectionable. That price for that computer is what some people find objectionable. Put it in an upgradeable, Mac Pro-type body and everyone will love it. Drop the price down to high-end iMac levels (as opposed to mid-range Mac Pro levels) and everyone will love it. Making a first of a kind ‘tweener product that contains the worst of both worlds (MP price with an iMac’s sealed body) while also developing a new and improved Mac Pro that will probably be out in the next 12-18 months is an odd play for Apple.
[Bill Davis] “Not everyone needs 8k or VR stuff right now. But a LOT of operations need to crank out media for the web. And can easily justify one of these, I suspect.”
Which I think is part of the conundrum some people find themselves in. They don’t need 8K today though they might need it a few years from now, but since the iMac Pro is an expensive sealed box they have to gamble money today on what they think you’ll need down the road. They also don’t know what the update cycle is going to be on the iMac Pro so ‘waiting to see what happens’ might end up meaning they’ll have to pay full price for a machine that’s using years old tech (a problem the 2013 MP ran into). Speaking of the Mac Pros they also don’t know the specs, release date or price of the next Mac Pro which results in a lot of unknowns surrounding a starting sticker price of $4999.
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[Carmi Weinzweig] “The CPU upgrade in his machine costs $800 and the GPU upgrade is $600. Those are the two that would have the most impact on performance. For an extra $800 one could also upgrade the RAM to 64GB. Moving to 128GB of RAM is quite pricey ($2,400 over the base).
“Not Bob’s point though. The price of $4999 kept getting batted around, but the machines being advertised were significantly more expensive than that. We’ll have to wait to see how the $5000 base version and the $7200 ‘sweet spot’ version (10 core, 64gig RAM, upgraded GPU) compare to the $10,000 version that all the early reviews seem to be based on.
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[Juan David Romero] “What are your thoughts about using these clips?”
1. Ask an experienced IP attorney. 2. Do #1.
[Juan David Romero] ” What I plan to do with the documentary is send it to short film festivals and to post it on Vimeo and Youtube.
“Film festivals won’t screen it unless you sign a legal document saying you have secured all the proper rights and clearances for all the audio and video/images used in your film. IIRC Vimeo’s terms of service require that you have all the proper rights and clearances for what you upload to their service. YouTube automatically scans all uploaded audio and video for copyrighted media and each uploaded video that is deemed to be a copyright violation counts as a strike. You can try to appeal it (prove you have obtained the legal rights to use it), but, IIRC, after three strikes your account is closed and all your videos are deleted.
[Juan David Romero] “You think I can at least get away with the 10-second CNN news clip?”
Do you think you can spend the time and money it takes to hire a lawyer (and possibly go to court) if CNN comes knocking at your door?
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I’m saying in a forum focused on video post production and editing (and Mac-centric by nature) it’s reasonable to expect hardware talk to gravitate around video post production and editing. Acting bewildered that someone would comment on the usefulness of a touchscreen for editing in an editing-centric forum is nonsensical. If you want to limit the discussion of the usefulness of a touchscreen (or any other product) to just Photoshop and Illustrator then those forums are probably where the conversation belongs.
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[andy patterson] “The link below was posted in this forum.
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/99298“
From the OP in that link;
[Oliver Peters] “Seems like a good choice to help round-out an FCPX “suite” of apps.”Discussing the different business models the major NLE makers users has long been a point of interest in this forum, and, as such, a discussion about non-Adobe alternatives to apps commonly used by editors during the process of editing is very topical.
If you want to discuss how hardware performs outside of the context of editing and/or video/film post production then this forum probably isn’t the best place to do it.
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Well, that song is going to be stuck in my head for the rest of the weekend. Thanks, Bill! 😉