[Alexander Serpico]

ugh oh…

you should have just bought the black burst generator, and let this thread die…

[Alexander Serpico]

LOL

[Alexander Serpico]

Coincidentally I have a new spot im working on now with lots of colorful red graphics, which all look bad. This is what sparked my dash today to posting so many times….

I revisited Marco Solorio’s OneRiver Media codec site, where he explains Apple’s codec lacks a chroma filter “which makes things appear jaggie”.

So now with Sheer Y’CbCr 10bv 4:2:2 installed, it all looks like it should.
There is no brightness shift like with using RGB, but there is a shift that happens in the viewer/canvas, but it does not go out through the Kona.

I think im sold on the Sheer Codec.
Can anyone think of a reason, or have past experience which suggests this might is a bad idea?
(With a 30 second spot i dont care if i have to render, it just needs to look perfect.)

[Alexander Serpico]

Anyone have experience with Sheer over Apple UC? I always hear nothing but good things about it.

[Alexander Serpico]

Is there another codec anyone could suggest?
If i were to use an RGB codec, what is the proper conversion/image adjustment that should be made?

[Alexander Serpico]

thx christopher. i remember now that i once also switched to RGB in the past out of desperation…

[Alexander Serpico]

Yes everything is rendered…
On a production monitor it still looks terrible, and also when laid off to digi.
I don’t have external scopes currently.

>As far as clients telling you they want a different red
I was referring to using gray type on that red.

In this case when I did this a few weeks ago, I ended up blurring the red and pulling it’s saturation way down, putting a little bit of a white outline on the text. It still looked bad, but on one said anything. I don’t like just “getting away” with problems like that…

So once again my original question, is this just a limitation of the codec or a weakness of final cut? I want to know if i have to tell a client that i cant do something like that cause it is technically not possible, or technically not possible with final cut.

[Alexander Serpico]

> yet it breaks apart, and chroma jaggies are visible.

to correct myself, the text looks more jaggy than the chroma.. but that too is visible when going out to a monitor…

and to be more specific,
text made in text tool, title 3d, or brought in from photoshop, all break apart over that red.

[Alexander Serpico]

Everyone please check out this still:

https://www.alexanderserpico.com/images/fcp_textonred.jpg

it is grey text over red. ive put the scopes next to it, and nothing is illegal.
yet it breaks apart, and chroma jaggies are visible.

if i make the grey text white, yes it looks fine over the red.

So back to my original question, is this a limitation of the codec?

If everyone says “well just dont use that color”, my response to you will be
i can’t say that to a client… or he will go conform on a Henry, etc.

[Alexander Serpico]

Ive had this issue with both digibeta xfers and graphics.