Aindreas Gallagher
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[Charlie Austin] “Although, like gramps, you understand it, you just don’t like this newfangled contraption.”
oh charlie, oh charlie. What are we to do with you.. 🙂
[Charlie Austin] “Speaking of newfangled contraptions… I used to be able to do really accurate crossfades by scraping them in mag tracks. You can get some really precise curves with a razor blade. This computerized stuff is way too divisive. ;-)”
Sure the father nearly lost a limb in the room (he said) off one of the early big steel spinning magnetic recorder assemblies coming unstuck and lashing out. those babies were fierce danger like..
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soundtrack pro had that behaviour as well right? Although I was never more than poking around in it for noise samples.
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oh but no charlie. you agreed heartily with john. there is no force on god’s creation that can take back that future microwave comment.
Said John about X as Charlie nodded in reply: “I feel like I’m describing how the microwave works to my Grandpa.”
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Have you tried the cross dissolve/ fade? isn’t it bananas? It’s basically a rigid overlay that allows you to continue trimming and rolling the cut either end of it. If you hover at the top left or right end of the dissolve, it allows you to trim the clip/or rather the entire connected sequence based on that edge of the dissolve. look:
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you’re about to magnetically trim the entire top of that edit, with all connected clips, off the back of that dissolve edge. it’s kind of a dissolve, but really it’s another three implied edit points – centre right and left – where you can act on the entire connected sequence.
It’s total raging madness. that timeline is, I submit: certifiably insane. for god’s sake even the dissolves are insane?
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hey charlie, come on – we just can’t comprehend this future microwave you’re wielding. It’s you know, beyond our ken.
tee hee hee hee hee.
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[Charlie Austin] “Also, I prefer whiskey. ;-)”
stoney sober son. I’m unlikely to make involved arguments on audio workflow bacheldered.[Charlie Austin] “The fact that you think what John and i are saying is based on some irrational love of Apple products is stupid Aindreas. “
you both just said that your experience with X was like explaining a microwave to a previous generation. I’m going to be easy on you charlie – that would be sad if it wasn’t inherently funny.It’s just a completely insane thing to say. Also it seemed (?) you didn’t get the basic problem with the X dissolves until I outlined it to you there.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “i give it 15 frames to blend on the left, and a small dissolve tail of 5 on the exit.”
Point taken. Still, I find editing audio without dissolves to be quicker and more precise in X than in 7 or Pr.what’s better to me overall is when you say:
[Charlie Austin] “The inflexible audio dissolves in X don’t matter. The lack of tracks and magnetism and secondary/connected clips are not a hindrance to anything. Unless you don’t like them, which is fine. “
Grand – I can look at that and make my own decision. But you don’t have a future microwave Charlie. That’s a personal fantasy on your part.
maybe more john’s part seeing as how he actually said the thing??either way kids – it’s a bit silly.. 🙂
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[Charlie Austin] “If you think he’s right in saying audio editing is somehow hobbled in FCP X because of that then both he, and you, are wrong.”
well no charlie, who wants or needs a workable audio edit dissolve, when you’re doing AB audio edits half the day using….
a twenty second century editing microwave.So to be very clear here:
I am never ever going to stop referring to the future microwave comment. there is no way to take that back. You agreed with john. that’s co-ownership.
I actually just made this for you both – boom and goodnight.
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[John Davidson] “I feel like I’m describing how the microwave works to my Grandpa.”
ah christ but you guys are funny i swear. what do you think you’re holding john? A ray gun? its an edit system with some great points and some very stupid stuff, and a really, really really crappy dissolve tool. I mean – is someone holding a gun to your head john? blink twice if so. It’s OK to say its a lousy dissolve tool mate.
jesus but that line made me laugh out loud there. Not in a bad way, but Sometimes I swear…. do you lads really wonder why we say koolaid sometimes?
lets have that again one more time sure.
[John Davidson] “I feel like I’m describing how the microwave works to my Grandpa.”
ah man. that’s one for the ages. Did apple give ye rocket packs as well????
sorry – I’m ribbing you john, but that was genuinely funny as hell bud. you gave me the giggles. 🙂
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No. ara please. You’re apparently doing audio AB editing all the time because the dissolve is nearly useless John. come on. file a feature request!
You can tell me it takes you four seconds to start AB editing every single music audio edit you ever do, but those four seconds add up baby, and I would be driven clean out of my mind having to split a single track into endless AB edits in order to control something as basically necessary as what we’re talking about.
The X dissolve tool is total pants. it’s OK to say it. No harm will come to you!
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you’re wrong jim.
OK. lets do simples.
I have charlie, an audio edit that splices from an earlier bar to a later bar. the incoming section is bang on, but the dissolve cannot go more than four or five frames on the right because the track starts to alter after that on the earlier bar, i give it 15 frames to blend on the left, and a small dissolve tail of 5 on the exit. That’s my splice.
[Charlie Austin] “Changing the start or end point a la Fcp 7 etc is exactly the same as dragging the midpoint in X.”
so you see this is all completely wrong. In X i have instead an applied 20 frame dissolve. yes I can alter the centre point, but I am simply shoving the edit point itself with the ten frames of dissolve on either side left or right. What I need to do, when its sits at the correct point, once I know the underlying edit splice is bang on, is make the incoming edit dissolve 15, and the outgoing 5.
what you are suggesting charlie, and what X offers, is the ability to move the edit point itself with the dissolve slaved to it. It’s always ten frames either side. That’s not a goer.
Interestingly, while 7 allowed the shifting of the total dissolve left or right to favour the incoming or outgoing audio, PPro goes one further and treats the left and right as two independent handle edits. It’s really nice.
much more plain than this, I cannot make it kids.
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