[Adam Claude jones]

[Aindreas O Gallchoir] “annnd I’m going headless chicken again.”

I think you’re better off logging off and coming back on June 9th before you have a heart attack with all the ungrounded assumptions this thing is trigging on you. 😀

[Adam Claude jones]

[ Aindreas O Gallchoir]“Ultimately If the updates are going to keep adding ‘let me do that for you’ features, am I just keep finding myself struggling to avoid prosumer tools messing with me, then maybe the product is being pointed at another category? one that rhymes with drosumer?”

Oh please!!!
Stop it already. It’s starting to hurt!
The auto stuff is there IF YOU WANT TO USE IT! You don’t have to. If you want do it the hard way or if the auto stuff can’t fix it well enough, just turn it off!

What is it with all the unfounded negative stuff? Is this coming from insecurity because the application is now more affordable and more people can compete with you or what?

[Adam Claude jones]

Well, it’s too early to say if all of Color’s functionality has been integrated, but it’s definitely is not the old FCP cc tools. Didn’t you see power windows in there?

[Adam Claude jones]

Did you watch the video demo or were there?
By looking at it, I’m not sure we have Color as a stand alone application anymore. I could be wrong. But the color correction part of FCP-X looked a lot like it can do what Color does. I think they may have fused Color into FCP-X. Let’s see.

[Adam Claude jones]

[Scott Davis]Yes FCP is $299. Previously the entire suite (FCP, DVDSP, Motion, Soundtrack, Compressor, Color) was $1000. 6 applications for $1000 versus 1 for $300. Simple division; the price has gone up!

Well, LOL, yes. But my feeling is that Color, Soundtrack and at least a bit of Motion is in there now. So maybe we are getting “them all” for $299 all combined into 1, like a mini-Smoke/Flint/etc. We will see.

[Adam Claude jones]

[Sohrab Sandhu]1.Price has gone down to $ 299. So effectively the worth of each license has gone down & application has become more dispensible to apple’s plans.

This makes absolutely no difference for current FCP users, unless you’re afraid of more competition. For Apple it means more users which will translate into more developments for us current users.

[Sohrab Sandhu] 2. This was touted to be a ground breaking application. It is not. Apple has simply caught up with Adobe & Avid. This is normally not their style. They are always 2 steps ahead of their competitors with every new invention.

It was a sneak peek. You don’t know all yet. Besides just based on what was already shown how can you say they are just playing catch up? On the 64bit front sure. But does Premiere have power windows withing the application? Does even Media Composer? Do PP CS5 or MC5.5 offer any of the new timeline features that FCP X does? That alone will speed up editing in a huge way. There are several new and innovative features that they don’t offer either. When you think it’s all for $299 makes me think if Avid or Adobe will ever sell another Mac copy of their programs. Apple is just re-inventing the way to edit video and I have the feeling that in the near future Avid and Adobe will be playing catch up and changing their old way to the new way.
Now as we don’t know all yet, it can still all go south obviously. But I agree with David. After I watched the videos I was MUCH more relaxed. At the moment it’s looking up rather than down.

[Adam Claude jones]

So power mastering is only used if you’re going back to tape? I thought it was some tool for conforming. If it’s for tape I don’t need it. This days i never go back to tape anymore. don’t need the remote grading either.
So if single processing GPU is enough for 1080p, it seems the only big limitation is the 2 color nodes. The noise reduction can’t be much better than Neatvideo already is. Nice to have it in grading but by the time my footage reaches that stage I have already denoised it long ago.

[Adam Claude jones]

I see, thanks. And exactly is power mastering and remote grading? Does Color have anything similar? Thanks.

[Adam Claude jones]

[Joseph Mastantuono ]“I’m really excited about the Noise Reduction stuff and the XML support, I have to say I did sometimes miss the hue curves from color, just because it just took me a bit each time I wanted to replicate it with a qualifier.”

Resolve 8 adds hue curves, but not hue/saturation wheels like Color or?

[Adam Claude jones]

No, No. Not thinking of using it on Imac. I already have a 8-core Mac Pro with 16GB RAM.