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Your opinion on going from SD to HD
Hello everyone,
We are in the process of preparing the remastering of a film originally shot on Digital Betacam in the PAL format.
We want to recreate titles, Graphics, VFX, etc. in 1080i25 and also regrade the film using Resolve.
How would you go about up-resing from SD to HD? Would you use Resolve (grade and then output in HD)? Or would you use a different tool all together to do the upconversion? We are really looking for the best possible result, money not necessarily being the issue.
Thanks in advance for your input,
Tobias
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resolve’s bilinear uprez is generally pretty good. It would be worth the effort though to try a hardware conversion, Teranex an obvious candidate, but also a play-through and capture (if you have more than one system) using a Kona or Decklink, which are also surprisingly good.
jPo
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Thank you!
If am grading and resizing in the same pass (on the same timeline), will Resolve first resize the image and then do its node calculations based on the new (high res) image, or will it do the node-work and then resize that?
Yes, Teranex I contemplated as well. We have both a Kona3 and an BMD Decklink 3D Extreme to try this with, also.
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Resolve’s scaling filter is very good, except I’m not crazy about its results with interlaced material. I’m much happier with it going from 720p up or resizing. I use a secret sauce mixing different software packages, depending on the footage when I have the time.
If you can rent/use one teranex is the way to go.
If you’re strapped for time and cash, kona3 isn’t bad.Back in the day I really liked optical flow stung in shake and compressor but you had to be careful about artifacts.
Joseph Mastantuono
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Get a Teranex, hands down the best conversion for the $ especially now that a 2D BMD Teranex is less than $2k and has thunderbolt capture. You can also control sharpening and NR a bit with the box and the processing is better than the Kona or most software scaling that I have seen.
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Robert Houllahan
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Thank you all… ok, so I am getting the tendency towards Teranex – especially at that price it’s a very attractive option.
However, I am wondering, is that the state-of-the-art? The top of the line? Or are you all referring to Teranex because of the obvious and undeniable value for the money ?
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Honestly I thin the new Teranex has to be close to “SOTA” I was curious if the BMD version was a watered down version of the VC-100 but I got one anyway and could not be happier with the conversions it does and I know someone with an insert shop who uses one for Broadcast conversions all the time.
Maybe a Snell would be 1% better? I don’t know but the current Teranex is quite a bargain, especially for the price.
_Rob-
Robert Houllahan
Director / Colorist
Cinelab Inc.
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Thank you for the feedback… so Teranex it is.
In Touch Media Entertainment
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I’d say snell a good deal more than 1% better, motion compensation is a big deal, but for the price the teranex is hard to beat.
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The vc100 does a decent but not fantastic job converting fields based formats. With slow frame rates it’s pretty bad. 24 to 25 and vice versa is pretty much unusable for higher end needs. As far as scaling is concerned, it’s quite good (better than Kona and BMD) but, again, if you want the best upscale quality you can possibly get it’s either a Snell Alchemist or Archangel.
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I hear you, I would however still be interested in finding out the answer to my previous Resolve question here:
!If am grading and resizing in the same pass (on the same timeline), will Resolve first resize the image and then do its node calculations based on the new (high res) image, or will it do the node-work and then resize that?”
Anyone know?
In Touch Media Entertainment
Munich, Germany
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