XDCAM HD = unreadable in Vegas?

[Jeff Schroeder]

Philippe,

Go get the Avid codecs…
https://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Download/en423319

There might be something there to help you.

Jeff

2-Xeon X5680 @ 3.33 MSI Mobo 48GB DDR3 GTX 580 3072MB 16TB Attached Storage Win7 Vegas 11 x64

[Philippe Gosselin]

Gee Jeff thanks for the link but I am really not following you here. My problem has to do with Sony Vegas not reading XDCAM files.

You are sending me to a page on Avid website which doesn’t even discuss XDCAM

Am I missing something?

[Mike Kujbida]

Phillipe, just because it appears to use the same file type doesn’t mean that a Mac-generated one can be read by a PC.
My experience with Macs has been to have them give you a ProRes file as Vegas can read that as long as you have a newer version of QT installed on your machine.

[Steve Rhoden]

That XDCAM HD format generated from Final cut is not gonna work
in Vegas….He needs to then give you them in the ProRes format
as Mike also mentioned.

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
Filmex Creative Media.
1-876-832-4956

[John Rofrano]

[Philippe Gosselin] “I don’t understand. I thought that the XDCAM HD 422 was made by Sony?, Shouldn’t it be readable but Vegas? “

Yes, if you keep them in their original MXF/MP4 containers. Vegas isn’t expecting to see XDCAM HD in a QuickTime container. Sony’s XDCAM HD support is expecting to see the native files that come from the camera.

That’s the problem with using FCP on a Mac, it converts everything to QuickTime instead of maintaining the original container format. So Vegas isn’t even involved here. Once Vegas see’s a QuickTime file, it passes that file to QuickTime to get it decoded. Once you placed them in a QuickTime MOV container you now need an XDCAM codec for QuickTime.

As other have said, tell your friend to give you ProRes 422 or to install the Avid DNxHD codec and use that. You will have to install it too but it’s free.

~jr

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[Jeff Schroeder]

Gee Philippe, Sony Vegas is running codecs written by Sony, Apple, MainConcept, Realmedia, Cineform, just to name a few. When editors realize that the code behind the codecs is not exclusively controlled by Sony, they gain an understanding of how to troubleshoot problems with formats that are new to their workflow.

I recommended Avid because I think their DNxHD codec will be capable of reading your apple hijacked Sony footage. (Can you tell I’m not a mac fan?)

You can try what the experts suggest or you can keep your unusable video.

Jeff

2-Xeon X5680 @ 3.33 MSI Mobo 48GB DDR3 GTX 580 3072MB 16TB Attached Storage Win7 Vegas 11 x64

[Ken Mitchell]

The mac xdcam codec .mov are for Mac only. Just like mac HDV and Mac
Intermediate codec. You cannot use them on a pc at all.

[John Rofrano]

[Ken Mitchell] “The mac xdcam codec .mov are for Mac only. Just like mac HDV and Mac Intermediate codec. You cannot use them on a pc at all.”

Good to know. So the only option is to have them delivered in either ProRes 422 or Avid DNxHD. I know Mike Kujbida works with ProRes files all the time in Vegas Pro. I’ve had no problem with DNxHD so either should be fine.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Ken Mitchell]

Yes ProRes, Prores HQ or Avid DNXHD are the best choices.. Many people are not even using Prores HQ anymore and are just transfering files at the standard ProRes. Going from PC to mac I usually give them AVID DNXHD or if they insist .mov H264 at about 22mbts.(22000k)

[Ken Mitchell]

another advantage of ProRes from Mac to Pc is that you are not locked into standard frame rates and sizes like you are in AVID DNXHD. So if you are doing a banner for a stadium etc. Prores works well.. But AVID DNXHD is truly cross platform mac to pc and pc to mac.