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XDCam clip names in FCPX
I would like my imported clips in the finder to display the names I give them when logging (rather than “2012-06-24 09:52:34” in the event library and “2012-06-24 09_52_34 (id).mov” in the finder I would like them to say things like “Tom falls off horse.mov”). The Title 1 & Title 2 fields in XDCAM Browser 2.1 don’t seem to make the trip to FCPX. I do not want to be totally reliant on FCPX’ keyword function to be able to find footage (& Apple just might throw the whole system away sometime in the future:).
The only way I’ve found to do this so far is to use the “XDCam Transfer” from FCP7 or to export 1 clip at a time from XDCAM Browser 2.1 using the ‘import into fcp’ button in the Preview pane.
Does anyone know a way using XDCAM Browser or FCPX import functions that will ingest my entire logged BPAV file and give the files proper names in the finder?
Many thanks.
Greg Pasztor -
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[Greg Pasztor] “BPAV file and give the files proper names in the finder?
Many thanks.
Greg Pasztor
“Import them as is – then use X’s “batch rename” functions to name them as you choose.
Simple, fast and flexible.
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Yes this a problem with FCP X. Its the same when you use the Canon c300 plugin, it genreates files long date time and not with proper clips names. With XDcam and Canon XF305/C300 material I don’t use the import plugins for X but convert the files in 7 or XDcam browser the then import the files into an event. I’ve flagged this up as I think its a bug, but I suspect others think differently!
Michael Sanders
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Import them as is – then use X’s “batch rename” functions to name them as you choose.
How do that??
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Pozdro
Andy -
I suggest you guys have a look at the renaming functions in FCPX.
They are extremely powerful, and allow you to change to the original camera name if you’d like (among a host of other methods).
The rename functions are in the inspector on the bottom right corner (the little wrench, or “spanner”).
Jeremy
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I should add, it only changes the metadata in FCPX, it does not change the file names in the Finder.
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Yes that’s the point. Why does it do this and not use the original clip names?
What worries me is if you do a batch rename (changing just metadata as you say), do an edit and then need to relink back to the original files say in resolve or protools? What then. The most obvious way forward is for FCP X to just create the files with the right clip names in the first place.
Michael Sanders
London Based DP/Editor -
[Michael Sanders] “Yes that’s the point. Why does it do this and not use the original clip names?”
If you want my honest opinion, I think it’s good they way that it’s done now. If you look at Avid and it’s superior MXF media management, it is very hard to discern what media is what in the Finder, but it gives you great control of the media within the apllication.
Media100 was the same way, you captured media and it made a non human readable wad of media, but the media management within the app was great.
In my opinion, this makes for better media management, BUT:
[Michael Sanders] “What worries me is if you do a batch rename (changing just metadata as you say), do an edit and then need to relink back to the original files say in resolve or protools? What then. The most obvious way forward is for FCP X to just create the files with the right clip names in the first place.
“This is where metadata in interchange comes in. There’s a difference between the name of the file, and the user clip name. A good NLE will keep track of all of this information. When the NLE assigns unique names (such as they way to most other NLE’s work, FCP7 is rare in this regard) this means there’s less chance of duplication, this is a very good thing.
If you need to reconnect, then Resolve or ProTools should simply ask for the file name it’s looking for like “2012-06-24 09_52_34 (id).mov” or perhaps it will link to reel name and timecode, file name be damned. This is why all of this is so important. Reels, timecode, anything that needs professional treatment in the form of interchange.
Even though this is harder to read to us humans, it’s makes for much better media management even if it adds a layer of complexity.
But, as far as the human readable part within FCPX, the renaming system is very powerful, and you can always go back to the name of the file if you need to. That’s what I love about it is that it’s so dynamic, and you can save naming presets for future use.
Jeremy
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Oh, and I made a mistake, it’s not the wrench icon, it’s gear icon in the lower corner of the inspector.
Apologies.
Jeremy
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The index needs to be printable, or sendable to excel.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Even though this is harder to read to us humans, it’s makes for much better media management even if it adds a layer of complexity.”
Maybe I’m being stupid but how does this help? A clip name is a clip name is a clip name.
If its on the XDcam disc as “CliptitleXXXX” then why is it better for FCP X to rename it “Datetimemovieid”
What if you export an XML and then someone want’s to load the data of the original disc? Or if like me you make a SPP image of a card. Seems an unnecessary step and over complication to me.
Michael Sanders
London Based DP/Editor
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