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  • Guillaume Chadaillac

    September 22, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    ok we are getting there….
    From the 7D until the output of final cut, I stay in 1080p 24p.
    them comes compressor that will perform rescaling (which one?) and change of format (Mpeg2), and keep 24p in order to import that to DVD SP.

    NTSC will play that just fine because of the 3:2 pull down. is my audio goind to be affected?

    what about PAL?

    My god it is completed…
    I feel like I just opened the pandora box…

  • Ben Holmes

    September 22, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Any PAL DVD player that offers Progressive playback will play the video at 24p. That includes Playstations etc. And, I would imagine, DVD players in computers. For these, there will be no speedup. To be honest, I’m not clear what happens in players not offering this. However, shooting in 25p will cause far more problens in conversion to NTSC.

    The professional DVD standard is NTSC 24p for DVD replication – often known as 480p, and this is BY FAR the most used, as Hollywood drives this standard from film production. If it was required for distribution in PAL land, I suppose you could re-master a PAL version, but I really wouldn’t worry about this.

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  • Mike Kiernan

    October 9, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    Wow. What a great thread. I just learned a whole bunch of stuff I wanted to know. I’ve been bringing in 1080p24 footage from my 5D mk II into an 8-bit uncompressed 4:2:2 timeline. I have lots of memory and some decent hard drives so it seems to work pretty well. I’ve even tried 10-bit but I’m pretty sure the camera is only 8-bit and even on the color grading and fades I couldn’t really see a difference.

    Good point about the time code though. iPhoto went and brought in my video along with the photos and I figured that was pretty slick and I could just keep it organized there but maybe I need to look at that.

    After editing and adding some music I compress it down to H.264 at 1280×720 with ProLogic II and AC3 audio tracks for the Apple TV. The quality from that camera is great. As good as anything else I’ve seen in that format. I haven’t tried Blu-Ray since I don’t have a burner but I’m guessing it would still hold up.

    Now I’m at the point where I want to bring it down further to get it on a DVD so I’ll be following the tips in this thread and hopefully I can get the pulldown flag set right.

    One question though. Is there any chance I can see Firewire NTSC external video with the proper pulldown while editing/playback on the 1080p24 timeline? I’m using an old Elura 40MC to output to the monitor and been having trouble to get it to display properly. When I use the 1080 timeline it only seems to play the first frame. If I make a 720×480 timeline and drop the clips on there it will play all the frames but zoomed in. Sorry I’m still pretty new to Final Cut and I’m sure I missed a step there converting the clips or something.

    Thanks for starting the thread. Great info for getting high def footage from the new DSLRs to DVD.

  • Shane Ross

    October 9, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    [Mike Kiernan] “Is there any chance I can see Firewire NTSC external video with the proper pulldown while editing/playback on the 1080p24 timeline?”

    Nope. Only DVCPRO HD allows that, but you need to be using THAT codec, and a DVCPRO HD deck or camera. Or you need to be using an IOHD from AJA…that connects via firewire, as does the MOTU V4HD (but that is DVCPRO HD only via firewire). What device would you connect this to anyway? Firewire from the computer to…? Not a DV camera…that’s SD. Not a Canopus…that’s DV. This is HD footage, you need an HD IO device.

    [Mike Kiernan] ” I’m using an old Elura 40MC to output to the monitor and been having trouble to get it to display properly”

    See…that’s a DV camera. How can a DV camera, that does 720×480, take in a 1080p HD signal and display it? It can’t. Not designed for it.

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  • Mike Kiernan

    October 9, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    Yep, you’re right. It would be SD from the computer through firewire to the DV camcorder through video or S-Video to a regular old monitor. I was thinking more along the lines of previewing what the DVD would look like on an SD television.

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