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  • Workflow advice Alexa mini – prores 444 at 3.2K – offline/online

  • Zoe Westley

    August 12, 2022 at 12:39 pm

    Hi everyone I am looking for some workflow advice.

    I’ve been on maternity leave for a few years so wanted to see if anything had changed in that time.

    I am due to cut a micro budget film – estimated length 97mins.

    The film will be shot on a single Alexa mini – prores 444 at 3.2K.

    Audio and Picture recorded separately.

    Editing will mostly on a 2016 iMac , with 32gb RAM

    The film will be graded in a DI suite but the cutting copy will be graded b&W in the software.

    I anticipate that there will be a fair amount of FX used on the sound track. Minimal effects on the picture side.

    At the moment I am undecided if I should edit this project on Avid Media Composer. Or Adobe Premier.

    I think this might be the route I take, but I want to see if there are any other suggestions.

    Avid workflow

    1. Seeing as I am cutting on an oldish iMac I was thinking of transferring all footage to 1920 x 1080 – working offline
    2. Sync all picture and audio in Avid via old school method of clapper sync points. Syncing to mix track so that it can be matched back to the full audio tracks.
    3. Once the project is complete – export timeline. Create a new 3.2k project, import timeline and reconnect to the original media.
    4. Export for the grade.

    Does this sound okay? Any other suggestions will be gratefully received. Also, could the same workflow work for Premier.

    What software would you suggest to convert the Arri Footage to 1920 x 1080?

    Thanks everyone.

    Zoe

  • Zoe Westley

    August 12, 2022 at 5:25 pm

    sorry just to add, would this be a better work method

    import proxies of the 4K footage via AMA to 1/4 resoloution and work that way. Linking back to 4K AMA for screenings and final exports?

  • Glenn Sakatch

    August 13, 2022 at 3:21 pm

    I would suggest what you edit on is up to you and your comfort level.

    In either case I would transcode in Resolve to 1920 x 1080 lower res media, and edit from that.

    Just make sure Resolve is properly set to include tape names and timecode before you start transcoding.

    I am not a Premiere editor…just Avid, and I can tell you this workflow works great in Avid.

    The speed of Resolve for transcoding, and the the workflow of Avid for editing a motion picture.

    I have recently completed a series of 13 episodes where I didn’t do the editing, but I did the conform, color and online, after the proxies I made in Resolve were cut by other editors in Premiere.

    The only thing you have to watch for is speed ramps coming out of Premiere, and frame rate conversions coming out of Premiere. Speed ramps are hit and miss, depending on the methods used by the editor. Frame rate conversions done on the fly in Premiere will almost most certainly not come across to conform properly.

  • Zoe Westley

    August 14, 2022 at 8:00 am

    Thank you. Great advice. I am much more comfortable using Avid, so will likely pick that.

    is it better to transcode rushes in Davinci? I’ve heard Media Encoder is also great. Would you not suggest linking the 3K rushes via AMA and working at a reduced resolution?

  • Glenn Sakatch

    August 21, 2022 at 3:48 pm

    I do not use the adobe ecosystem.

    I’ve been using Resolve for dailies for well over 10 years. If set up properly, it is rock solid.

    You have to make sure Resolve is using timecode from the original clip, and that it is assigning a tape name from the source clip name. These are items you set in the preferences tab.

    I would not suggest linking to 3k rushes in ama and working at a reduced resolution. Your box is just going to struggle at some point. Why bother. spend a day, create your dailies in Resolve at HD. Create Avid media in Resolve, and have avid do it’s typical media management.

    Then edit your film. When done, you can easily relink to camera originals either in Avid or Resolve for the list creation to color.

    I would suggest you do a card of dailies in Resolve, send those to Avid, cut some shots, and send a list back to Resolve, and see if you can relink. That is the easiest way to make sure you have created dailies correctly. Plenty of youtube videos on this topic, including some of my own.

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