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Brett Sherman
May 6, 2013 at 1:45 pmBack to the idea of audio tracks. To me one of the most powerful things about the way FCP X organizes the timeline is the potential to have different views of a timeline. Unfortunately, it has not been developed by Apple at this point.
Bear with me, with roles one could tag video/audio clips with a certain track. Then in a “track view” it would assemble all the audio into their respective “tracks” even if it was part of a video clip. If you want to keep audio and video together you just switch back to the standard view.
If you move the audio clips around vertically in track view, it would change the role to the track number you moved it to. So you wouldn’t have to manually set every role. If you move the audio clip horizontally, it would detach the audio from the video.
A similar convention could work for video. But it would be a little more complicated because the stacking order affects the output on video, whereas it doesn’t with audio.
Of course, I expect this is thinking too far outside the box for many.
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Keith Koby
May 6, 2013 at 2:06 pm[Mathieu Ghekiere] “- If you scroll trough with JKL keys, and you do it very quick, you hear the audio pitch-perfect for the first seconds, and then it disappears. It would be great if it would stay like that. “
I’ve noticed that with growing files. The actual movie file exhibits the behavior described above, however the reference movie of that file fast-forwards fine without dropping out after a couple of seconds.
Lots of other good suggestions in your post. Reference files out of the app probably won’t happen because of security concerns.
I saw batch exporting mentioned above. Batch selecting timelines or compounds or even clips or keyword collections to export would be good.
More important to us would be the ability to create a bundle of quicktime by role saved user presets. For example you could simultaneously export mixed and split audio or texted and textless masters.
Sometimes I think a role mixer would be good. Basically – a tool to bus roles. But when you start to think through it, you quickly run into problems and it seems less helpful…
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Bret Williams
May 6, 2013 at 3:11 pmYou could actually do quite a bit of that in legacy by creating motion projects, assigning drop zones and such, and saving them as master templates. From there they were accessible in FCP. Much less advanced than the current implementation, but cool nonetheless and nobody seemed to care. Probably because they could send to motion. 🙂
So, it’s natural that the concept has gotten better over time. Not so natural that they ditched send to motion. Course I’d rather send to AE.
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Bill Davis
May 8, 2013 at 11:01 pmDavid,
I understand.
But I’ve never figured out how one can search, sort, or find anything by a color in an organizational system beyond a single person doing the simplest form of visual search?
One can perform search, sort and find operations on the NAME of a color. But NOT the color itself.
I don’t know of a single database that has the facility to allow the user to click on a color and use, say, RGB values to derrive a subset.
It’s certainly possible, I’ve just never seen a system that’s implemented that type of search function. So what’s the point of basing your practices on a thing that has this type of limited global utility?.
I agree color is a great visual marker – but it’s a pretty terrible boolean tool.
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Andy Neil
May 9, 2013 at 12:35 am[Bill Davis] “But I’ve never figured out how one can search, sort, or find anything by a color in an organizational system beyond a single person doing the simplest form of visual search?”
Perhaps not, but not all organizational tools need be index searchable. For example, I’d heartily support color coded clips in the timeline to represent roles. It can be done elegantly and it would allow editors to understand which clips are tagged with which roles at a glance without having to isolate the role itself. The colors themselves could also be check box viewable. In other words, you see no change in color unless you go into the Timeline view tab and and check the “View roles by color” check box. It would be better than the current “Show Clip Roles” function which only changes the barely readable text to display the role.
Andy
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David Lawrence
May 9, 2013 at 12:48 am[Bill Davis] “One can perform search, sort and find operations on the NAME of a color. But NOT the color itself.
I don’t know of a single database that has the facility to allow the user to click on a color and use, say, RGB values to derrive a subset.
It’s certainly possible, I’ve just never seen a system that’s implemented that type of search function. So what’s the point of basing your practices on a thing that has this type of limited global utility?.”
Simple, just associate a label with a color, for example:
green = good
red = reject
purple = B-rollSearch and sort on the label assigned to the color. Problem solved. I’ve worked this way this for years and it works great. Best of both worlds! 🙂
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Gabriel Spaulding
May 23, 2013 at 10:46 pmThey both have a Selection/Select Tool.
Premiere has Slip, Slide and Roll Tools while FCPX incorporates all three of those into the single Trim Tool.
Both programs have a Hand Tool and Zoom Tool.
Both programs have a Blade Tool and Blade All functionality.
Premiere has the Rate Stretch tool while FCPX has the equally useful Retiming function.
Premiere has a Pen Tool, but in my opinion this does not make adding keyframes any easier than it already is in both Premiere and FCPX.
FCPX has a Position Tool and a Range Tool; the former is not necessary in Premiere and the latter is extremely useful.
Both programs have Overwrite edits, Replace edits, Insert edits and Shuffle edits.
FCPX also has an Append edit.
Premiere allows Ripple trimming, and FCPX –by default– definitely allows Ripple trimming.
Both programs allow Extend edits and top and tail edits…What trim tools does Premiere Pro CS6 have that Final Cut Pro X does not?
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Charlie Austin
May 23, 2013 at 11:00 pm[Gabriel Spaulding] “What trim tools does Premiere Pro CS6 have that Final Cut Pro X does not?”
He’s talking about JKL live trimming, which MC has had for some time, and Pr just got. Having used it in both those apps, I don’t miss it at all in X, but that’s just me of course… 🙂
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Andy Neil
May 23, 2013 at 11:02 pm[Gabriel Spaulding] “What trim tools does Premiere Pro CS6 have that Final Cut Pro X does not?”
Not Neil (assume he’s who you’re asking this question of), but FCP X is lacking in some trimming functionality for those who use trimming a lot. My own personal biggest gripe is that the two window display for trimming only appears when trims are performed by click and drag. Many editors, myself included, like to do frame trims with keyboard shortcuts while viewing the display so that you can easily line up visual cues on both sides of the trim.
FCPX should allow for a trim display that comes up automatically when an edit point is selected with the trim tool or edge selection shortcuts, or even just having a separate view like they do with the angle viewer. Then we could perform trims more easily with the < and > keys.
Add that to my list.
Andy
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