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Windows version, any plan?
Posted by José luis Martínez díaz on June 25, 2011 at 4:24 pmI know , I know, but considering migrating to Windows after the fcp debacle. Has anyone ever heard of a planned windows release?.
Cheers,
Jose
Sony Sharma replied 14 years, 8 months ago 11 Members · 14 Replies -
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Margus Voll
June 25, 2011 at 6:43 pmNope.
Why should there be ?
Win is a lot of different inside compared to osx and linux.
What will you gain from windows? Premiere runs on mac also.
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Margus
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José luis Martínez díaz
June 25, 2011 at 7:16 pmWell, since Decklinks work in windows machines, and there’s no affordable option for professional color correction in Windows, beyond Scratch, and a lot of people won’t be willing to pay the ‘apple tax’ now Final Cut has been turned in a ‘independent variable’…
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Gustavo Bermudas
June 25, 2011 at 7:40 pmYou would not be saying this if Apple also decides to kill the MacPro. That’s the next fear growing, and the indications seems it is quite possible.
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Margus Voll
June 26, 2011 at 5:38 amOk but still. To get really good windows machine you get hp or dell and for me they seem in the same price range with mac pro.
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Margus
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Jose Lomeña
June 26, 2011 at 10:04 amI think we don’t need windows davinci, maybe a low prices for linux license… I prefer to have more features with mac version than invest time and resources on windows version.
I was thinking to move to sony vegas with fcpx debacle, but the problem is “windows”, I hate windows. And for me prores 4444 is a must!.
saludos
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Greg Leuenberger
June 26, 2011 at 8:59 pmNot to jump all over you Margus but you will gain **a lot** from running on windows. Windows supports the full range of CUDA and OpenCL supported graphics cards – you can get a much newer and faster card for windows and have more of them. I just put together a windows box (to run 3D software) that has 3 16x pciE slots for 3 way SLI or Cross-Fire on a $200 motherboard (with 6GB Sata and USB 3.0 to boot). Simply put you can get MUCH better performance out of a windows box than a Mac Pro (and I have half a dozen Mac Pro’s and Xserves at my company). The only thing more pathetic than the range of available graphics cards on OS X is the actual performance of the crappy last generation graphics cards we are offered. Duel boot into Win7 on a Mac Pro if you want to see what your machine is really capable of.
Now – granted you lose FCP support on the Mac (maybe not be such a big deal anymore..cough cough). But you also lose ProRes 4444 support which is a big deal (Win can read but not write it, if I’m not mistaken). All the AJA and BM cards are supported on Win as well. Plus you can get fast enough Raids on the motherboard without using a slot…or use one of the sweet SSD based RevoDrives that don’t really work on a Mac. So it’s really only a software issue (no ProRes, no FCP and no Smoke) that would prevent a complete Windows based system.
But as far as hardware is concerned – a Win7 machine would blow away anything a Mac has to offer by a (HUGE) margin. The ‘best/recommended’ CUDA card for OSX is like 3 years old (the Qaudro 2000 being handicapped by bandwidth and the usual crappy OS X drivers). Anyway, getting off of my soapbox here but a Win 7 version of DaVinci would be a killer app, but it would also probably render the Linux version meaningless so I don’t think we will probably see it coming.
-Greg
But as far as perform
[Margus Voll] “What will you gain from windows?”
Greg Leuenberger
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Sabertooth Productions, Inc.
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Margus Voll
June 26, 2011 at 9:34 pmYes you win some in speed but as i see it loose in workflow and support.
By support i mean how different stuff is supported like red camera etc.I switched to mac as workflows seemed better, faster, simpler to use and good pc did cost as mac pro
or more and software did cost many times more.So the gain is not only in one area or cuda numbers.
One has to look workflow as well.I used mu pc’s many years but now osx feels so eazy to use that it would be insane to go back.
But people can do what they like and with what they like.
My point was that win is other beast compared to osx and linux on what Resolve runs.
Osx is linux inside.Only way to run it rock solid on win would be to use it on really high end dell or hp
but then we would hear a lot of complaining again about the cost etc.So yes linux version would make more sense on high end pc based machine.
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Margus
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Vladimir Kucherov
June 26, 2011 at 10:38 pmIt sounds like ProRes is really the trump card in Mac’s hand. It’s just such a good set of codecs and have become very ubiquitous in post world (especially smaller stuff). And that is one big reason to stay on Mac.
I was playing around with a windows install and by default it had 4 codecs, all of them last updated around 1996. Not good news. It would actually be a HUGE power move right now for Adobe to come out and write a competitor to ProRes that’s multi platform.
Stability comes from running server CPU and motherboard (Xeon). But you will still save a ton of money because, for one, you can get a 7 slot motherboard, saving you several thousand on a PCI expander.
It’s a mixed bag. You’re absolutely right though, porting Linux > Mac is an easier task than porting to Windows. If there was a windows version, I’d personally try to use it over mac. Seems like a few other people would as well. But whether it’s all worth BM the development time, only they know.
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David Catt
June 27, 2011 at 2:32 pmResolve was originally developed on Windows and compiled in QT, a cross platform compiler which could compile both Linux and Windows. There were a lot of other less obvious issues using Windows such as file system performance and instability. There was no intention at that time of releasing the Windows version. It was just for convenience allowing engineers to develop code using the same laptops that they were still using to develop the 2K. BMD’s decision to move to Mac made sense as the environment is similar to Linux plus the availability codecs.
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Sony Sharma
June 28, 2011 at 11:26 amreally wanted that on windows. win7 is very stable.
My media composer system is more stable on win7 HP than macpro.
DNxHD is as good as Prores for broadcast
and for high end hollywood feature film type work i won’t use prores444..it will be always DPX.
on windows side we have plenty of hardware options, like more and more CUDA powered cards to put on, RAIDs and more customizability in terms of CPUs, RAM and other many many things.
mac has very limited support for new graphics cards.
latest update of mac osx did not work for my resolve and i had to downgrade.
it gives me great worry after the new FCP-x incident and non support for geforce 5xx series card. people are saying that apple will be abandoning MacPro soon. HP or DELL at even same price are better beacuase they are not limited by the limitations imposed by OS manufacturer.
if windows is the only hurdle they should release it for linux but for non MAC hardware.
hope they are listening.
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