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  • Why we will be choosing PremierePro over FCPX

    Posted by Morten on April 21, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Let me start by saying that this has nothing to do with the changes Apple have made to Final Cut. I actually like the Magnetic Timeline, and simpleness of the program. But there are just too many missing features, or lack of individual control, for a professional workflow:

    – Missing ability to work with Shared Storage in a simple way
    – Lack of possibility to easily save a version
    – Colorgrades cannot be key framed
    – The color board becomes cluttered and looses overview
    – No Media Management for saving with trimmed Media
    – Re-link without ability to overrule
    – Loading of all projects slows down workflow
    – Locked project settings, no custom sizing
    – Custom Titles need to use cumbersome Motion engine
    – Lack of partial export from Timeline
    – Missing possibility to inspect clip from timeline in event viewer
    – Re-importing from archive does not maintain timing

    This is a sad decision, as I do not like the way Adobe hides away everything in menus that look completely alike, and generally takes too many mouse clicks to work with. But I just don’t feel FCPX is ready for professional use in our company.

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    Morten replied 13 years ago 25 Members · 64 Replies
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  • David Mathis

    April 21, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    Also, there is no “Send To Motion” option like there was in FCP 7, ouch! There is also the fact that there was no big announcement of what Apple has planned for Final Cut Pro X down the road which leaves me to believe there will only be updates for the time being.

  • Ievgenii Larin

    April 21, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    I agree with everything except your point about Motion 5. Motion 5 is awesome inexpensive piece of software that allows very flexible manipulations with titles and effects in FCPX.

    And you can use partial export from Timeline and Event Browser since 10.0.6 update.

  • Tapio Haaja

    April 21, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    I also agree completely with you except Motion based transitions, generators and titles are awesome and very powerful way of building templates for different workflows. Although I understand your need for basic title tool.

    One more thing for us that makes working with FCPX impossible is that all the Motion based effects (also 3rd party effects because those work through Motion) soften non-square source material such as SD anamorphic. And yes we still work with some SD material… This happens because FCPX feeds all video material as square pixel to motion templates so there is scaling happening back and forth.

  • Joseph W. bourke

    April 21, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    Morten –

    Once you start to get the workflow down, you’ll find a keyboard shortcut for just about everything you do in PPro – it will save you massive amounts of time over using the mouse, although it is an adjustment of work habits. You can also assign your own shortcuts:

    https://helpx.adobe.com/content/help/en/premiere-pro/using/default-keyboard-shortcuts.html

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  • Chris Kenny

    April 21, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    [David Mathis] “There is also the fact that there was no big announcement of what Apple has planned for Final Cut Pro X down the road which leaves me to believe there will only be updates for the time being.”

    Those ‘updates’ have brought many very significant features. Apple hasn’t really gotten much credit for this, because most of those features were willing in functionality that people believe should have been present in the first version. But now that many of those gaps are filled, if Apple continues to push out updates of similar scale every 3-4 months (which appears to be the plan), this seems vastly preferable to Apple holding back features for a big release every 12-24 months.


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  • Walter Soyka

    April 21, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    Premiere Pro Next should reduce the amount of mouse clicking considerably, with new keyboard actions and revised track patching.

    I’m very curious to see what the next major release of FCPX will bring, too. I think the divergent philosophies from different developers of what editorial should be is fascinating.

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  • Bill Davis

    April 21, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “I’m very curious to see what the next major release of FCPX will bring, too. I think the divergent philosophies from different developers of what editorial should be is fascinating.”

    I think this is spot on.

    The two pholosophies are simple.

    A – I need to keep working the way I always have because my investment in process is too deep to jettison.
    (which is an extremely defensible contention, by the way)

    or

    B – I’m willing to explore new ways to work in order to potentially benefit from some new ideas and thinking.

    Everyone fits in one camp or the other.

    Neither camp is better or worse than the other.

    What matters is where you see yourself going and how long you decide you want to keep going there.

    My 2 cents anyway.

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  • Gary Huff

    April 21, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Everyone fits in one camp or the other.”

    The world doesn’t quite work like that. Plus, just because something is different then what has been, it doesn’t automatically mean “better”.

  • Derek Andonian

    April 21, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    Morten Ranmar This is a sad decision, as I do not like the way Adobe hides away everything in menus that look completely alike, and generally takes too many mouse clicks to work with.

    You won’t be so sad when you see the next version. They went to great lengths to make the workflow more efficient and there are many significant things that either require less clicking, or can now have a keyboard shortcut, or now work the way you would expect them to. Retooled.net has a lot of good videos about the changes that have been made.

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  • Craig Shields

    April 21, 2013 at 9:36 pm

    [Bill Davis] “A – I need to keep working the way I always have because my investment in process is too deep to jettison.
    (which is an extremely defensible contention, by the way)”

    That’s really oversimplified. I’ve never thought this way. It has nothing to do with investment. I have both Premiere and FCPX and I prefer Premiere. I also like the way Dennis with Adobe (and others) come onto this board and answer questions. It shows me they are listening. Of course Larry Jordan says that the Apple team tells him they are listening but it’s not the same. BTW, why is it unlawful for Apple guys to come here and address us directly?

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