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Why The Pro Market Should Take FCP X Seriously – HD Magazine article
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I can honestly say I would be far more likely to adopt X if there were a more normalish timeline. Some sort of hybrid between X and Pr.
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[Walter Soyka] “Export an image sequence, then review it and save out any individual corrupt frames?”
Why? Just to examine or fix?
It’s the same issue I posted in another thread. An image that should be a PIP becomes full screen and semi-transparent and inverted for 1 frame. Random and at different points on successive attempts. Usually partially through a transition. Mostly PR4x4 media with filters and manipulation. 5+ layers thick. Not fixable because there is movement. So I had to keep trying until I got a clean export. Unfortunately with a client in the room; but fortunate, too, in that this client knows he can come back later and have a corrected product. So no worries (for him).
FWIW – I have seen this issue on other projects on another machine, so it’s not limited to this one circumstance. The only commonality is that both machines are Mac Pros and have ATI 5870 cards. May or may not matter.
In the end, it doesn’t matter how fast an NLE is, if you can’t get the end product out of the box. ;-(
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Yes, even though I’m a fan of FCPX and think it’s a great NLE, I too would be very cautious about moving an entire facility to it at this point. Right now I think it’s OK for the intrepid editor in a facility to start working in a single seat but FCPX still has to improve collaborative workflow. I do hope Apple tackles this within the year.
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[Chris Harlan] “I’m just disputing the assertion that facilities aren’t finding either MC or Pr compelling. These facilities have been going through the same worldwide recession that everyone else has. What’s not compelling is spending a lot of money when it doesn’t have to be spent. It makes perfect sense that people aren’t buying en masse.”
Compelling, to me, are not features divorced from economics. There’s not great motive to spend and that’s the point. This also means an impact on Adobe and Avid … and this is really really bad for Avid. For Adobe it buys them more time to make the economics compelling. Actually this too for Apple although they have an entirely different business model.
One would have to see a real cost benefit gain to move to another NLE. In this economic climate it’s harder. The cost benefit gains of moving to either Avid or Adobe are not compelling (and not to Apple either for that matter).
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[Walter Soyka] “Export an image sequence, then review it and save out any individual corrupt frames?”
[Oliver Peters] “Why? Just to examine or fix?”
As a workaround and attempt to reduce the amount of trial and error in getting a clean output. Rather than constantly re-rendering, hoping for clean output, send out some output you can expect will be dirty, then just try to re-render only glitches.
Once you’ve gotten those clean, stitch the whole img seq back into a movie file with Compressor.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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[Craig Seeman] “[Chris Harlan] “I’m just disputing the assertion that facilities aren’t finding either MC or Pr compelling. These facilities have been going through the same worldwide recession that everyone else has. What’s not compelling is spending a lot of money when it doesn’t have to be spent. It makes perfect sense that people aren’t buying en masse.”
Compelling, to me, are not features divorced from economics. There’s not great motive to spend and that’s the point. This also means an impact on Adobe and Avid … and this is really really bad for Avid. For Adobe it buys them more time to make the economics compelling. Actually this too for Apple although they have an entirely different business model.
One would have to see a real cost benefit gain to move to another NLE. In this economic climate it’s harder. The cost benefit gains of moving to either Avid or Adobe are not compelling (and not to Apple either for that matter).
“I’m sorry, Craig, if I misunderstood you. I took your earlier post when you said that it was “telling” that many facilities weren’t upgrading to either Pr or MC to mean that they had judged MC or Pr not to be compelling NLE platforms and might instead be waiting for X to evolve. That is the notion I’m arguing against.
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “Apple, Avid, Adobe have no compelling propositions on any level.”
Believe it or not, I agree with you.
This year will be very interesting for Apple with a MacPro replacement, OS 10.9, ongoing changes in FCPX. It can be major steps forward or self built hurdles.
The slow movement buys Adobe more time to iron out and improve things.
I can’t say much about Avid other than the clock is ticking and if they’re just banking on FCP7 movement to their quarter it’s going to be another failed business model.
I do wonder how EditShare looks for those companies seeking an alternative to Unity Isis.
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[Walter Soyka] “As a workaround and attempt to reduce the amount of trial and error in getting a clean output.”
No, I get it. At this point the picture is locked, but I’m waiting for the mix to come back. I was exporting a video mixdown to put it back on the top layer. My fallback was to do a few mixdown exports and stitch them together, since the corruption was at different points. In the end, I got a pass that was completely clean.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Craig Seeman] “I do wonder how EditShare looks for those companies seeking an alternative to Unity Isis.”
There are plenty of viable shared storage solutions at all levels that are good alternatives to both Isis and Xsan. And they work with FCP7, PPro or MC. So in the hypothetical scenario that someone like Blackmagic bought the editor and DAW software IP from Avid, the user base would be just fine.
What’s more interesting, is whether the eventual Mac version of Lightworks (late 2013 or 2014?) would ultimately have significant traction.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Oliver Peters] “In the end, it doesn’t matter how fast an NLE is, if you can’t get the end product out of the box. ;-(“
Problems like this are not just limited to FCPX of course, every NLE I’ve ever used has bit me on the a** like this many times, I had a major problem with a PPro CS5 project last year that would not export a master file at all and I can’t count the times that I had export issues with FCP over the years.
Considering it’s all new code and it’s version 1.06 I think it’s remarkably stable.
Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”
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