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  • Oliver Peters

    November 29, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Problems like this are not just limited to FCPX of course, every NLE”

    While I agree and it’s easy to say that, the reality for me is that I’ve recently run a couple of large jobs through FCP 7 and MC. The comparative stability versus X is quite significant. After working with X for months, I am no longer comfortable using it on anything that is deadline-critical.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Steve Connor

    November 29, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “While I agree and it’s easy to say that, the reality for me is that I’ve recently run a couple of large jobs through FCP 7 and MC. The comparative stability versus X is quite significant. After working with X for months, I am no longer comfortable using it on anything that is deadline-critical.”

    Fair point, as I said it’s version 1.06, would you really expect it to be as stable as FCP7 and MC?

    For me it’s fine, especially after the last couple of versions but I’m sure there’s issues with it that I’ve yet to meet

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Oliver Peters

    November 29, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Fair point, as I said it’s version 1.06, would you really expect it to be as stable as FCP7 and MC? “

    I would expect it to be much more stable than it is right now. From what I’ve experienced, the pre-10.0.6 bugs are still there and 10.0.6 introduced new ones.

    It’s a decade later than the original FCP and software development and Q&A techniques have advanced just as the product itself has. The whole point of rewriting the code was to make a better product that was ultimately easier to improve upon. I’m not sure we are seeing the reality of that.

    By comparison, MC6 was a move to 64-bit and in theory the two should be on similar footing. They aren’t. But maybe the A-list engineers inside Apple were pulled off to fix maps!

    [Steve Connor] “For me it’s fine, especially after the last couple of versions but I’m sure there’s issues with it that I’ve yet to meet”

    I fully acknowledge that maybe what I’m doing with X are things that break it. After all, most of what gets talked about here are fairly simple from the standpoint of editing design. 1 or 2 layers of video. A few channels of audio. Some filters, some transforms, some color correction. That’s all within the FCP X sweet spot.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Steve Connor

    November 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “I would expect it to be much more stable than it is right now. From what I’ve experienced, the pre-10.0.6 bugs are still there and 10.0.6 introduced new ones.”

    I’m not seeing this and the support forums don’t seem to be plagued with reports of poor stability and lots of bugs, perhaps you should try a clean install

    [Oliver Peters] “By comparison, MC6 was a move to 64-bit and in theory the two should be on similar footing. They aren’t. But maybe the A-list engineers inside Apple were pulled off to fix maps!

    Well there were a lot of posts about stability with MC6 so it’s not that far off

    [Oliver Peters] “After all, most of what gets talked about here are fairly simple from the standpoint of editing design. 1 or 2 layers of video. A few channels of audio. Some filters, some transforms, some color correction. That’s all within the FCP X sweet spot.

    I’ve certainly pushed it harder than that!

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Oliver Peters

    November 29, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    [Steve Connor] “I’m not seeing this and the support forums don’t seem to be plagued with reports of poor stability and lots of bugs, perhaps you should try a clean install”

    By bugs, I’m talking about things like the skimming issues, where occasionally it just gets hung up. I noticed today that it also will no longer do a video-only share export of a file. Might just be this one project. I see the other things on multiple machines, so I doubt it’s a clean install thing.

    Then again, maybe I have lost all tolerance for these sort of things 😉

    [Steve Connor] “Well there were a lot of posts about stability with MC6 so it’s not that far off”

    Not really the case with 6.5 – at least not in my experience on several machines.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Steve Connor

    November 29, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Then again, maybe I have lost all tolerance for these sort of things ;-)”

    Having a project go bad when a deadline looms will do that to you!

    [Oliver Peters] “Not really the case with 6.5 – at least not in my experience on several machines.

    I’ve heard that 6.5 is much better, hopefully FCPX will be more stable for some people when it gets to version .5 as well

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Craig Seeman

    November 29, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “I’m sorry, Craig, if I misunderstood you. I took your earlier post when you said that it was “telling” that many facilities weren’t upgrading to either Pr or MC to mean that they had judged MC or Pr not to be compelling NLE platforms and might instead be waiting for X to evolve.”

    I dont’ think they’re waiting for X to evolve instead at all. They’re waiting for whatever can hit that much tougher cost benefit trigger (tougher due to economics). Personally, baring change, I think Avid is least likely to get that baring a major change. It certainly could be Adobe. It might be Apple. Apple has a lot to do in a very short time on many fronts (not impossible for them but we just don’t know). Adobe is showing efforts in collaborative workflow for example with Adobe Anywhere for example.

  • Oliver Peters

    November 29, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    [Steve Connor] “hopefully FCPX will be more stable for some people when it gets to version .5 as well”

    Actually it is. The X or “10” is product branding, like OS X. So, 10.0.0 was the same as a 1.0 product version. Therefore, 10.0.6 is the same as if this was called version 1.6.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • David Powell

    November 30, 2012 at 1:03 am

    Wow so I’m not crazy! I’ve lost so many hours this week trying to get an hour long sequence out without corruption. Problem is each time out randomly shows up on a different place with or without filters. If this is common, I don’t see how anyone is delivering projects on time. And this is 10.06 with no compound clips.

  • Oliver Peters

    November 30, 2012 at 1:13 am

    [David Powell] “Wow so I’m not crazy! I’ve lost so many hours this week… “

    You and me both, man. Seems like the others on the list are just a tad luckier.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

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