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  • Why not give Submaster DVE controls?

    Posted by Steve Pankow on October 3, 2006 at 1:55 am

    Man, I would love to find a way to nest several video, matte and title tracks and have the Submaster effect be able to push them around the screen on XY axis. I know you can dump stuff into a PIP effect, but it grabs *everything* underneath it and not just what you nest into that effect. Am I missing something obvious?

    Bill Stephan replied 19 years, 7 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Bill Stephan

    October 3, 2006 at 4:34 pm

    To keep the P-I-P effect from affecting everything under your submaster effect, leave a blank video track between the track containing the submaster and everything else under it.

    Bill Stephan
    Senior Editor/DVD Author
    USA Studios
    New York City

  • Steve Pankow

    October 3, 2006 at 5:22 pm

    With a matte key on V1, nothing on V2 and a PIP on V3 with two video clips (each having their own PIP effect) nested in an PIP effect, it still manages to pick up whatever’s on V1. Making V3 a submaster or moving the clips up into 1.x tracks doesn’t have any effect.

  • Bill Stephan

    October 5, 2006 at 4:08 pm

    Maybe having a matte key on your V1 is causing the problem. A matte key effect needs to be over some background on a lower track to function correctly. If your background consists of a graphic over black, you might try moving everything up a layer, so the matte key keys over something.

    Our company does those Vonage spots that are all over the place. If you look at one that has a white card at the end with store logos, you will see a soft-edge wipe (supplied as an animated key window) to a graphic with 4 store logos and a web site/phone number graphic. The master spot is supplied to us with the soft wipe to the end graphic already built-in, so we need to soft wipe-on the store logos and URL/phone #. The main spot is on V1 with no EFX. V2 is left empty. V3 is 5 nested matte keys created using the collapse tracks effect, and V4 is the animated key window with a matte key effect applied. If I do not leave V2 empty, the matte key does affect V1. Leaving V2 empty does leave V1 untouched.

    One other thing to check is that you unselect “downstream key” on all your effects when building complex composites. That definitely will screw up the logic.

    I hope some of this helps.

    Bill Stephan
    Senior Editor/DVD Author
    USA Studios
    New York City

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