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Why no “Send To Motion”?
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[Oliver Peters] “After all, there is no “live” tie-in between Aperture and FCP X, is there?”
It depends on what you mean by live tie in.
There is much more integration than before FCPX.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “It depends on what you mean by live tie in.”
Can I import an image from Aperture into FCP X, then make non-destructive, non-baked image adjustments in Aperture, and have those update inside X?
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You know the answer to that question, it’s “sort of”.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “You know the answer to that question, it’s “sort of”.”
What!!?? It’s much worse. Here’s what actually happens. When you bring a file in from Aperture using the photo browser, it brings in the temp preview image from the library. This is generally a half-size JPEG proxy image. For example, I tested some 2400-wide DNGs from a BMCC. I dragged in a frame and it comes in as a 1200-wide JPEG. You can find it in the Original Media folder for that event. If I go back to Aperture and make an adjustment – like change colors and crop it – nothing updates in FCP X. I can drag that same image again into X for the new view and now I get a new JPEG; but because I cropped it, it’s even smaller. Sheesh!
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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That’s what I mean by sort of.
You can, in fact, see the Aperture updates in the FCPX Aperture interface.
It’s sort of there, sort of weird, but hey, so is dynamic link. It’s awesome when it works, not so awesome when things start crashing.
But nothing compares to Avid’s direct link to a ProTools session, I mean how could it?
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I wish Apple had simply put Motion in FCPX. That’s will be the only way to keep AE fans inside FCPX for simple effects and compositing.
John
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[John Heagy] “I wish Apple had simply put Motion in FCPX.”
That’s what I say all the time, then out come the shotguns and hunting hounds.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “But nothing compares to Avid’s direct link to a ProTools session, I mean how could it?”
I think you just made my point. That’s why I doubt you’ll seen any sort of “dynamic link” style connection between FCP X and Logic. OTOH, there is a working link between Avid MC/Sym and EyeOn Fusion using their Connection conduit. And of course, Avid FX is basically Boris RED grafted inside MC/Sym.
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[Oliver Peters] “I think you just made my point. That’s why I doubt you’ll seen any sort of “dynamic link” style connection between FCP X and Logic. OTOH, there is a working link between Avid MC/Sym and EyeOn Fusion using their Connection conduit. And of course, Avid FX is basically Boris RED grafted inside MC/Sym.”
I have no idea if there will be a direct link. Right now, there’s zero hint of a link to Logic, but its simply not true of other functions even if the “links” are tenuous.
If “an artist with programming skills” can get fcpx to Ae/Nuke with a bunch of capability, I’d imagine a programmer with artist skills would be able to take the ball and run with it at some point.
Apple will provide the platform from which to jump, it’s up to developers to take that first leap.
The problem is, the platform is still being built so it’s a bit rickety.
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[Oliver Peters] “I just don’t see how any of this makes sense. Apple pointedly positions FCP X as “Editing, sound and color – Together in one app”. I just don’t see them making an FCP X/Logic X integration.”
Exactly my point. I think that if you wanted round-tripping, Logic Pro X would have to subsume so much of FCPX that it would make more sense to just broaden the audio toolset in FCPX in the first place.
(Of course, I also thought Logic was aimed at music composition and sequencing moreso than recording, mixing, or engineering, and now here we are, talking about it as the perfect DAW to pair with an NLE — but what do I know?)
I’m hoping maybe Michael can chime in here, too, but is there any reason other than history why NLEs and DAWs are so separate? Is there a workflow or development reason why, say, Premiere can’t reasonably have Audition built in below V1 on the timeline?
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