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Why no ‘Create Optimized media’ option?
Hi there folks,
I’m having a little confusion over here. I’m keen to optimize all my media as my sytem is not so powerful and FCPX works better if everything is optimized so I attached a new drive to my system and imported a load of media to Final Cut Pro X that was on my iMac’s system drive ensuring that the ‘copy files to final cut events folder’ was checked. Some of this was DVCPRO50 footage and some was HDV. It copied it over no problem the started analysing/transcoding.
I selected create optimized media on one batch of media but I forget which one. The other batch had the check box greyed out (I could not select it).
I also checked all the analyse media check boxes. The Transcoding and Analysing took forever (24 hours on a 3.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 10.7.1 (now got latest), 8 GB Ram for about 300 GB of footage). I assumed that it was taking so long as it was creating ProRes Files of all my media.
It seems as though it hasn’t. It hasn’t optimized any of my media. The files that were copied over I have checked with video Spec and they are all still native.
Even if I select the files in the event browser then control click to get the options, when I click ‘transcode media’ the ‘Create Optimized media’ check box is greyed out. Only the create proxy media is available.
Any idea why this is? Very confusing. Are they somehow optimised without me knowing it, it certainly took long enough to get everything in. The problem is video spec says they are still HDV/DVCPRo50
James
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17 Replies
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Some formats such as those are already in formats that are optimized to work with FCP. Optimization is primarily for the H.264 based formats.
All the best,
Tom
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Coming in 2011 “Complete Training for FCPX” from Class on Demand
“Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press -
Hi Tom,
Okay so HDV is optimized to work with Final Cut Pro Natively? I thought that was a bad idea as the codec does not take well to adding effects. Is this resolved by FCPX rendering portions of ‘projects’ with effects applied to them to ProRes? I don’t really understand thos anyone fancy explaining it in basic terms.
james
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Everything in FCP is rendered into ProRes. Any effects or color correction you apply get rendered to ProRes.
All the best,
Tom
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Coming in 2011 “Complete Training for FCPX” from Class on Demand
“Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press -
What if you turn off background rendering and have clips with color corrections applied and then simply send to Compressor?
What happens to those clips? I’m assuming FCP doesn’t render them to ProRes before the handoff.
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I haven’t seen documentation about it…but in the past, sending directly to Compressor has always ignored render files and encoded directly to the target codec..which is why it generally takes longer than dragging a reference or self contained movie into Compressor
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You could do that, but don’t. First, it’s very slow, and second, it’s prone to failure. You should export media using current settings. That’s the master. Take that to Compressor.
All the best,
Tom
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Coming in 2011 “Complete Training for FCPX” from Class on Demand
“Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press -
[James Bayliss-Smith] “Okay so HDV is optimized to work with Final Cut Pro Natively? I thought that was a bad idea as the codec does not take well to adding effects. Is this resolved by FCPX rendering portions of ‘projects’ with effects applied to them to ProRes? I don’t really understand thos anyone fancy explaining it in basic terms.
“Import in HDV codec, work in a ProRes project, all renders will be to Prores as will the master you output. There is NO benefit at all to transcoding to Prores before editing.
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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Steve,
If you import in HDV and work in ProRes … Aren’t you transcoding to ProRes before editing? Did I get confused in your workflow description?
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The output and render files are ProRes. Nothing is processed to ProRes prior to that time.
All the best,
Tom
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Coming in 2011 “Complete Training for FCPX” from Class on Demand
“Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press -
Okay thanks guys, just for clarity…..
Say I have a simple 3 clip HDV project. The first and final clips are left unaltered but the second clip has loads of colour correction and a zoom on it.
With the FCPX default settings the 2nd clip will render to pro res automatically in the background. What actually happens? Is a new clip created, transcoded to ProRes, and placed in the renders folder. Is this what rendering does?
Then at the end if I export media with currrent setting (so not selecting pro res) the master will be an HDV master? What happens to the second clip (the one with the effect). Does it somehow convert back to HDV?
Of course I know I should master to ProRes rather than HDV but I was just wondering how rendering actually works
Thanks and sorry for the beginners questions I’ve never really understood rendering properly.
Cheers,
James
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