Why is creativcow biased against FCPX

[Andrew Kimery]

[Thomas Frank] “Apple releases a update… not much activity”

Not much activity?

Apple released new laptops and the 10.3 update last week and there are almost two dozen threads (I stopped counting at 15) talking about it in this part of the COW alone.

[Thomas Frank]

Yes I know they did but where are the news letter with the info from creativecow?
Didn’t see anything about FCPX on the front page. Just Adobe.

Don’t get me wrong, not talking about the community I mean the site and it’s administration.

[Steve Connor]

[Thomas Frank] “I always thought creative cow was a neutral professional site. But it feels like a Adobe advertisement crusade.
“

It IS a neutral professional site and you are wrong about the Adobe bias. I count two threads showing about Adobe here, one started by me and the other a news piece on the new CC release. Everything else is discussion about FCPX 10.3 at the moment

[Thomas Frank]

You guys getting me wrong, the forums are active and used by the users.
But the site itself “Administrative” Apple releases new MacBook Pros and FCPX right. No news letter nor stories on the main page.
Only Adobe…

[David Roth weiss]

Thomas,

Perhaps you’re noticing that advertising dollars get you eyeballs on the Internet. Adobe spends enormous amounts on advertising and generating PR. I think you’re confusing Adobe’s successful high-powered advertising with this site’s editorial policy.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist & Workflow Consultant
David Weiss Productions
Los Angeles

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[Bret Williams]

There’s a main page?

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[Bill Davis]

No comment about X.

The new laptops, however?

Maybe a few hundred people in the entire world have EVER touched one.
They don’t ship for another couple of weeks.
Virtually no-one has EVER edited on one.

So it’s so very useful to be able to cruise around the interwebs and learn – so far in advance – just how much Apple has screwed them up.

On second thought – I suppose it does make me a bit all misty and nostalgic to mentally re-live the X launch.

; )

Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

[Bill Davis]

[Steve Connor] “It IS a neutral professional site and you are wrong about the Adobe bias. I count two threads showing about Adobe here, one started by me and the other a news piece on the new CC release. Everything else is discussion about FCPX 10.3 at the moment”

Well….

It’s a few days after the launch of arguably the MOST significant re-design of FCP X since it was released – and the sticky threads tacked to the top of the FCP X debate forum are about … Adobe and Microsoft.

nuff said?

This may well be a totally an automated process across all subs. And if ADOBE and Microsoft paid for forum positioning across the site – thats just business. Fair enough. But it IS an “appearance” thing that gets noticed.

FWIW.

Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

[Winston A. cely]

I never really pay attention to the ads. I just figure sites have to get their money somehow, and then I ignore the ads…

As for the Cow community in the FCPX threads, after the release of FCPX I noticed more and more comments and threads that focused almost exclusively on negatives. Gone were the days of speaking up about the good aspects of FCPX or hardware that Apple released. In it’s places seems to be this competition like atmosphere to be the first to post about some specific way the hardware or software is lacking in a feature or usability. Yes, this is a generality, not everyone here, moderators especially, act like this. However, I’ve noticed that more often than not, I’m visiting the Cow because I’m curious to see what new way the community has come up with denigrate a new product or update.

*This is speaking specifically about Apple and their software and products. I rarely if ever go to the other forums.

Winston A. Cely
Editor/Owner | Della St. Media, LLC

17″ MacBook Pro | 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7
4 GB RAM | Final Cut Studio 3 | FCPX | Motion 5 | Compressor 4

“If you can talk brilliantly enough about a subject, you can create the consoling illusion it has been mastered.” – Stanley Kubrick

[Bob Zelin]

you people are all crazy. You think this is politics, like Hillary and Donald ? I truly think that you
are obsessing insanely about this.

I am critical of all products, and usually only post when something is wrong, or there are problems. Perhaps
you don’t like that about my personality – and I am sure that companies like AJA and Blackmagic and Adobe
don’t like me when I say negative things I find about their products.

But this community is APPLE driven, and our business is Apple driven, from day 1 of AVID Media Composer, and then
onto all the other apps from Media 100, FCP, Premiere, Resolve, and all the hardware peripherals that tie into Apple computers. If you have ever gone to a trade show, like the NAB show, you will see that it’s ALL about Apple computers, even though Apple has decided to not participate on the show floor of NAB. EVERY DAMN MANUFACTURER shows Apple computers.

The revenue that comes into Creative Cow (and our industry) is based on Apple products, with a relatively limited focus on Windows based products. So being “prejudice” towards Apple products, or FCP-X (possibly the most popular forum on Cow, and what convinces advertisers to advertise here) is completely ridiculous. Money comes into Creative Cow because of the passion for Apple products. And competitors come here to advertise and write articles to compete with that.

I am sure that Creative Cow would LOVE for you to write a review on the new Mac Book Pro with FCP 10.3. Why don’t you volunteer to do this? When I write articles for Cow, I do not charge them one penny. It’s to promote what I do, and what I believe in. I was “prejudice” towards FCP-X until the release of 10.3, because now I see financial benefit for me with this specific release. And so I am no longer prejudice about it, and you will see me review products that relate to thunderbolt 3, and the new Mac Book Pro and it’s use with FCP-X 10.3, because I have personal gain from this. Until I can see personal gain from this, I have no incentive to do so. Please remember that I am not an employee of Creative Cow, and do not accept any money from Creative Cow, or any other manufacturer.

So your perception of “prejudice towards FCP-X” is completely wrong. Cow would welcome your detailed review, and they would publish it. And then morons like me would try to tear it apart. And any objection of criticism towards your review would be identical to someone objecting to the political beliefs of our lovely politicians that we see every day.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com