“Why I like Premiere Pro” – looking for serious discussion

[Jim Wiseman]

Yes, Andrew, I know they both (4444 and Proxy) came later, but wanted to point out the continued development. One could mention quite a bit of Adobe software that has remained moribund. Big push on Premiere these days to pick up the FCP7 people and keep subscribers happy with rental and CC, but not a lot being done with some of the other titles. The Metal demo on El Capitan at the Apple intro was the first major speed improvement I’ve seen shown in AE in a long time. Adobe is claiming up to 8x faster with Metal for realtime playback. Check it out on the Apple site stream of the event. Very impressive. Speed improvement has been the source of many complaints regarding AE here and the other board. Supposedly Adobe is paying attention to that. Maybe next release. Monopoly of a sector (mograph) is not a great thing for anyone. Changes in their print and design software has been very slow. Apple has momentum with FCPX, and I can’t see them ignoring improvements in it.

BTW, I never thought DNxHD, was as good as the highest quality ProRes. ProRes has become the standard. DNx always seemed noisier in the dark areas to me. YMMV.

Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1, Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Pro X 10.2.2, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1.6, Premiere Pro CS 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K, Blackmagic Teranex, Avid MC, 2013 Mac Pro Hexacore, 1TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 2-D500, Helios 2 w 2-960GB SSDs: 2012 Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz, 24Gb RAM, GTX-680, 960GB SSD: Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 16GB RAM 250GB SSD, Multiple OWC Thunderbay 4 TB2 and eSATA QX2 RAID 5 HD systems

[Jim Wiseman]

Can’t believe multi clip relink hasn’t been addressed yet. One at a time? Not using Premiere anymore but that seemed like a glaring omission and a huge waste of effort. It was always one clip at a time when I was using it.

Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1, Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Pro X 10.2.2, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1.6, Premiere Pro CS 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K, Blackmagic Teranex, Avid MC, 2013 Mac Pro Hexacore, 1TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 2-D500, Helios 2 w 2-960GB SSDs: 2012 Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz, 24Gb RAM, GTX-680, 960GB SSD: Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 16GB RAM 250GB SSD, Multiple OWC Thunderbay 4 TB2 and eSATA QX2 RAID 5 HD systems

[Herb Sevush]

[Jim Wiseman] “Can’t believe multi clip relink hasn’t been addressed yet. One at a time?”

It has been addressed, Eric was dealing with a corrupted project file. Re-link will relink anything in the folder or in any subfolders of the folder you point to.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Jim Wiseman]

That is good to hear. Used to drive me nuts.

Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1, Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Pro X 10.2.2, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1.6, Premiere Pro CS 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K, Blackmagic Teranex, Avid MC, 2013 Mac Pro Hexacore, 1TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 2-D500, Helios 2 w 2-960GB SSDs: 2012 Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz, 24Gb RAM, GTX-680, 960GB SSD: Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 16GB RAM 250GB SSD, Multiple OWC Thunderbay 4 TB2 and eSATA QX2 RAID 5 HD systems

[Eric Santiago]

[Herb Sevush] “It has been addressed, Eric was dealing with a corrupted project file. Re-link will relink anything in the folder or in any subfolders of the folder you point to.”

Im actually still playing the missing game 🙁

I only have one drive with the Proxies and it still gives me fits every time I open up the project.

In the past the Director/Editor and I were sharing files by moving just the PPr project. The folder structure was the same except for the root drive volume name.
Now I had to kill one of my RAIDs and rename it as same name as his drive just to avoid that stupid Relink window.
HOnestly Im not trying to start any sh*t here but why cant Premiere act like After Effects/FCPX/Maya/Resolve and pretty well most apps where it reads sub-root and down.
For some reason Premiere just wants an exact volume path.
Again this is CC 2014.
I dont have the patience for updating and never do during critical times.

[Herb Sevush]

[Eric Santiago] “For some reason Premiere just wants an exact volume path.”

This is the “corrupted” project file. I share media and project files with editors all over the country and none of our directory or file structures are the same and re-link works fine, even if they are working off proxies they made, automatically linking everything in a selected folder and all it’s sub-folders. Then, every once in a while, I get a project like yours that simply won’t link. This is a bug, not a feature.

Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Gabe Strong] “In all honesty, NLEs are kind of like cameras. They all have stengths and
weaknesses and there isn’t a perfect one out there.”

yep, that’s the truth of it.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Aindreas Gallagher]

yeah – I was talking total bollocks there.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Brian Seegmiller]

If you export your project in PP using PP and play your timeline or a clip the encode will stop. Oh wait…you can’t edit at all. If you “send to queue” to media encoder the encode will stop if you play a clip in PP. This works the same way in FCP X except if you send to compressor your encode will not stop if you play a clip in FCP X or edit.