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why duplicates for Vegas..
It was my understanding that when you ‘import’ material to a Vegas project it doesn’t actually create a copy of that file/video/material. Unlike Avid for example which actually does create a separate copy of a video file to work from
it was explained to me that Vegas ‘edits’ natively from the video material …so if its on an external hardrive it edits off that..if its an internal hardrive..same thing.
I stumbled across a large folder of video material that corresponds directly to a project i am working on in Vegas. The folder is called ‘imported video’… its on my internal hardrive and it looks to me as if Vegas has created duplicate copies of some or all of the video material.
My understanding is that when you want to ‘import’ media you just select ‘import’ point Vegas in the right direction and it ‘imports’ into the project but doesn’t actually create another copy..it just sets up that particular project to know where to find the video material and thus edit it natively….
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I’m not sure what is going on but you are correct… Vegas just works with the files you point it to and does not make a copy. It also would not have created any folders unless you manually created them yourself.
If you save and tell Vegas to copy the media it will blindly copy all the media to the save location and make duplicate copies if you do that more than once, but import does nothing like that on import.
~jr
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i have been doing a lot of ‘saving’—essentially using one project as the template…then editing a different version and renaming it…could that be what is going on…and if so is there a way to stop Vegas from ‘blindly’ saving/duplicating…?
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….i’ve had a closer look at this ….the file folder they are in…is called ‘imported media’….don’t ever recall creating this folder. It seems to contain all the media for two separate projects i am working on.
Perhaps i also need to clarify something… I shoot on an EX1…I dumped all the material into a ‘folder’ which also happened to be on my internal hardrive… so when i did the ‘import’ i pointed the ‘device explorer’ to that particular folder and it then ‘imported’ those files to my Vegas project…it has to be said that it did take quite some time for the import to happen…
As I’m writing this I’m now thinking that maybe using EX1 files in this way …forces Vegas to actually create/import a whole other set of copies…?? Is there a way around this… is there no way Vegas can simply use the EX1 files that are on my internal hardrive?
when i right clicked on one of the video files and went to ‘explore containing folder’ it took me to the extra folder that was created…not the folder where i had originally stored the EX1 files. -
—-ok…more information. I just ‘imported’ one file from the original material on the internal hardrive. I then checked the ‘containing folder’ and its is using the original one on the internal hardrive. ..i.e. it did not create a separate folder..it did not dump it into the ‘imported media’ folder.
So it would appear when i imported the EX files using ‘device explorer’ (which is the only way i could figure out how to do a batch import of the ex files) it creates a separate media folder. Now…some of you may be reading this and saying…’of course it does’… but i had no idea. is there no way to do a ‘batch import’ of multiple EX1 files from a folder…internal or external drive…using the straight ‘import media’ feature?
If this is the case and i need to use ‘device explorer’ to do the import it seems my best approach would be to put the EX files on an external hardrive and use device explorer to batch import..that way i avoid having duplicates on my internal hardrive…..
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OK, that explains it. I don’t have an EX1 so I can’t recommend a good workflow. It is my understanding that the suggested workflow is to use the Device Explorer against the original card from the camera in which case making a copy on your hard drive makes perfect sense. If you are copying the files from the EX1 card to your hard drive then you are done. Just drop those onto the Vegas timeline and forget about import/device explorer all together.
~jr
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…the way i work..generally—is that when i am on a shoot I dump all the EX1 material off the card and into a folder at the end of each day…so after about 3 or 4 days i end up with a folder on either internal or external drive with anywhere from 30 to 60gb’s of EX material.
The cards are expensive so you can only have so many–they are then erased at the end of the day.
I then create a Vegas project and want to import all or most of that material. If you use the ‘import media’ setting it only allows you to import one clip at a time….not practical..
I use device explorer because it allows me to ‘batch import’ all the files/video material. But when I do it this way Vegas seems to create a whole separate bunch of video files in an ‘imported media’ folder.
Perhaps i didn’t understand something in your previous message. Apologies if i have missed something -
[charles martin] “I use device explorer because it allows me to ‘batch import’ all the files/video material. But when I do it this way Vegas seems to create a whole separate bunch of video files in an ‘imported media’ folder. Perhaps i didn’t understand something in your previous message. Apologies if i have missed something”
What you missed is that the Device Explorer is used to copy the media off of the card. It you have already copied the media from your cards, there is no need to use the Device Explorer. Just drag and drop the media from your hard drive onto your timeline or media bins.
~jr
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i’ve tried dragging and dropping the EX files into a media bin…it won’t work. The files are BPAV files and are not presented as MP4 files …which is essentially what EX video is wrapped in when its created. It won’t let me drop the files in as they appear in the hardrive folder….
This is all very strange—-again—i can ‘import media’ one file at a time but it will not allow me to batch import all the files in one hardrive… only one at a time… -
I’m sorry I’m not familiar with the EX1. I know XDCAM cameras produce MXF files. I thought th EX1 does too. I guess you’ll need to use the Device Explorer after all to make a copy of the files that you can actually use with Vegas. I don’t consider this a “copy” since you just told me that you can’t use the original files in Vegas. I call that a “conversion” and apparently it’s a necessary conversion in order to use the files.
~jr
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…thanks again…as always very helpful!
The strange thing about this is that you can bring an EX video/file into Vegas using ‘import media’… but only one file at a time…which obviously isn’t practical.
My hope is that Sony will address this issue and allow ‘batch’ imports someday..that would solve the problem pretty easily.
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