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  • Sohrab Sandhu

    May 31, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Somebody please remind me why was I in love with Mac computers!

    Sohrab

    FCS 3, AJA Kona Lhi & Adobe PPro

    “The creative person wants to be a know-it-all. He wants to know about all kinds of things: ancient history, nineteenth-century mathematics, current manufacturing techniques, flower arranging, and hog futures. Because he never knows when these ideas might come together to form a new idea. It may happen six minutes later or six months, or six years down the road. But he has faith that it will happen.” — Carl Ally

  • Herb Sevush

    May 31, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “OK, so if you’re sticking to FCP Legend, what are you going to do with multiple GPUs and multiple I/O on a 32bit application that won’t see but one of each and barely touches the GPU as it is?”

    My issue is that my MacPro died and I’m on a loaner. A present day MacPro would just about do – 16 Lane for the graphics card, 16 Lane for my ATTO R680 controller (just needs 8 lanes), 4 Lanes for my ARECA controller (wants 8 lanes as well but can marginally work with 4) and 4 Lanes for BM i/o. But this means I’m spending my money on a 2 year old computer with no way to upgrade graphics or CPU in the future to take advantage of my next NLE that I will be migrating to the following year. At best I get the cheapest refurbished MacPro out there and piss away $3000 on a 1 year solution so that next year I can get the $6K PC I really want. I would prefer to give Apple my $6K and get something I can use for a few years, but that doesn’t look very likely now does it, no matter what Dairymple says.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Richard Herd

    May 31, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Consensus then? It won’t be a tower-style form factor.

    What if its a scalable type thing, a bunch of quasi mac minis. You can stack each 8 GB unit (my imagination not fact) as a kind of render farm and you’ll get your 512GB.

    I’m just sayin’: construal is everything.

    Think of the profit margins. Herb can buy 10 of ’em. Shane can buy 44 of ’em. Jeremy can buy 52. Bill won’ buy one. and so on, so that you scale your own thing. I’ll buy 4 of ’em, a cute matching set for my family, the wife and twins and me.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 31, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Died how?

  • Herb Sevush

    May 31, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Died how?”

    It got Bambi’d (mother! mother!) – dead motherboard, don’t know the exact nature of the disease, but it had the best doctors I could find and a viking funeral.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Joseph W. bourke

    May 31, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    I can see how impressed clients are going to be when they walk into a suite that has 14 little bricks strung together with Thunderbolt cables, and dozens of necessary outboard peripherals. It will look like an Apple knick-knack shelf!

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 31, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “It got Bambi’d (mother! mother!) – dead motherboard, don’t know the exact nature of the disease, but it had the best doctors I could find and a viking funeral.”

    Bummer. You can’t replace it or you just don’t want to pay to replace it if it’s just for a year?

  • Phil Hoppes

    May 31, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    MacPro’s represent a laughable insignificant portion of Apple’s revenue. Giving it way more than it deserves it can’t be more than 20k to 30k units a year. Assume an ASP of 5K which again is far too much on the high side an you get 100M – 150M. The last FY reports put Apple’s annual revenue at 109B dollars. That is a whopping 0.14% of annual revenue. Apple’s revenue is continuing to go up and MacPro revenue is going down so you have a product line that represents 0.14% of your annual revenue and it is rapidly approaching negative zero.

    Do you really have to ask WHY Apple would want to keep this product line around? Come on really?

  • Herb Sevush

    May 31, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “You can’t replace it or you just don’t want to pay to replace it if it’s just for a year?”

    I’m not sure if they even make replacement motherboards for it, and if they did it wouldn’t be worth the money. It was a MacPro 1.1 – even more limited PCIe. It was due to be replaced last year, but I was advised to hold off because something new was coming – and I’m still waiting.

    The loaner is also a 1.1 and working on it is killing me – crashes all the time because I’m using only 8 lanes for the gfx card so I have enough lanes for the raids. Ever since we went tapeless my storage needs have skyrocketed – 720P60 ProRes for 5 cameras eats up a lot more space than 720P30 DVCPRO HD for 4 cameras.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 31, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “I’m not sure if they even make replacement motherboards for it, and if they did it wouldn’t be worth the money. It was a MacPro 1.1 – even more limited PCIe. It was due to be replaced last year, but I was advised to hold off because something new was coming – and I’m still waiting.

    The loaner is also a 1.1 and working on it is killing me – crashes all the time because I’m using only 8 lanes for the gfx card so I have enough lanes for the raids. Ever since we went tapeless my storage needs have skyrocketed – 720P60 ProRes for 5 cameras eats up a lot more space than 720P30 DVCPRO HD for 4 cameras.”

    Yeah, that’s a tough one. I am sure you could find a refurb/demo to get you through “the year”.

    Pain in the a$$ to be sure.

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