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Why do users say FCP X is fast? Some new numbers.
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[Andrew Kimery] “X has been in the wild a few years now, and there’s a lot of good resources online too, so I don’t think you need to worry about beating out every negative brushfire”
I disagree a little here Andrew. In my personal experiences the far majority of conversations go like this…..
Me: Have you tried FCP X?
Them: No. I heard nothing but bad things about it.
Even at this late date. Just spoke with a guy from LA last week who is still sitting there on 7.
He said he heard bad things.It’s pretty much like that every time. When I start to describe what I like about it they get interested and want to at least try it.
I get Bill’s style because I’m the same way in politics. I’m not looking to bring that person over that made up their mind. I’m talking past them to people who are standing around listening who are on the fence.
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[Tony West] “I disagree a little here Andrew. In my personal experiences the far majority of conversations go like this…..”
I would agree with you. I speak to a lot of top-level editors, most of whom cut on Media Composer. The vast majority have very little firsthand knowledge about X and their impression is still based on the launch 4 years ago. In reality, though, most of these editors are not nearly as “plugged in” as those of us on forums like this. They really don’t have the time to get deep into anything other than the films or shows they are working on unless they are in between projects.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Oliver Peters] “most of these editors are not nearly as “plugged in” as those of us on forums like this. They really don’t have the time to get deep into anything other than the films or shows they are working on unless they are in between projects.”
Agree completely
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[Tony West] “I’m not looking to bring that person over that made up their mind. I’m talking past them to people who are standing around listening who are on the fence.”
Out of curiosity, how many times are you willing to have the same goes-nowhere argument with the same people/same types of people for the possible benefit of fence sitters that may or may not be around? If there are identifiable fence sitters around why not focus on engaging with them and not continuing to focus on the person that’s obviously made up their mind?
As someone that doesn’t use X but likes to keep generally aware of what is going on with X I found the discussion between Christian, Mathieu, Charlie mature and informative. If people are just batting around overwhelming praise vs overwhelming criticism in a flamewar type manor what’s the point?
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mix of option 2 and 3 I suppose?
and, well, good design is in the eye of the beholder, as long as the beholder has enough taste to recognise good design.
zinnng.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Look, I’ve been impressed with X since day one because it provided me with real world solutions to video editing problems *I* had confronted for years — and I found, over time, it made me a more engaged and happy editor.
But every time I posted about that – what I was confronted with lots of voices working very hard to tell me (in one fashion or another) why I was wrong.
This week at lunch, my wife quoted a line that stopped me cold.
“That guy’s always ready to think of a problem for every solution.”
BINGO.
To me, that encapsulates a huge percentage of our debates here.
People work VERY hard to prove that the solution I’ve discovered that works for me – and makes me a much happier editor – is really no solution at all – or at least LESS a solution then some other one. And to tell me why it would NEVER work for them – even tho they don’t really understand it and have never really tried it in depth. It’s almost pathological. And I believe it deserves to be confronted. At least unless it turns out (via fair and robust testing) to be true. But a HUGE percentage of the time, it just doesn’t. Pick an FCP X bash from the past – “Magnetism is dumb, X can’t cut long form, or commercial spots, or movies, or X was stupid to dump tracks, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.”
Yeah, I know this whole thing is a lame “It’s ALL about ME!!!” screed. And that’s super dumb. But you’ve got to admit that there are few here (not nobody, but few) who have taken as much personal crap as I have for expressing those evil “Pro-FCPX” opinions here. And I do get tired of it sometimes.
Besides ,mostly it’s fun to mix it up. And having something work related to be passionate about? Thats actually REALLY cool. ; )
Signed, your obedient fanboy.
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Or have as much incentive as Adobe’s forcing rental of CC on us. That has been a big incentive for me to learn FCPX and look forward to Resolve. Adobe, for me, is no longer an option.
Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1, Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Pro X 10.2.1, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1.6, Premiere Pro CS 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K, Blackmagic Teranex, Avid MC, 2013 Mac Pro Hexacore, 1TB SSD, 64GB RAM, 2-D500, Helios 2 w 2-960GB SSDs: 2012 Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz, 24Gb RAM, GTX-680, 960GB SSD: Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 16GB RAM 250GB SSD, Multiple OWC Thunderbay 4 TB2 and eSATA QX2 RAID 5 HD systems -
[Jim Wiseman] “Adobe’s forcing rental of CC on us”
Apple doesn’t have a software rental option. Is it fair to say Apple forces software purchase on us?
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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“Out of curiosity, how many times are you willing to have the same goes-nowhere argument with the same people/same types of people for the possible benefit of fence sitters that may or may not be around? If there are identifiable fence sitters around why not focus on engaging with them and not continuing to focus on the person that’s obviously made up their mind? ”
If you are talking about when I’m in the work place, it really depends on the situation and what’s being said. In general, I tend not to let misinformation or a flat out lie, sit out there unchallenged.
If it does, it stands the chance of becoming real to people even if it has no bases in fact.
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To be fair, almost all of the avid editors I know moan about anything that isn’t Avid ; )
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