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  • Which AMD mobos for DL Extreme PCI Card (not PCI Express)?

    Posted by Bj Ahlen on February 11, 2006 at 9:11 am

    I have been using a DL Extreme PCI card since 2004 in a P4 Supermicro workstation for SD D5 capture and editing. Would like to upgrade to an AMD X2 mobo, without having to buy a new PCI Express card.

    I did a search of old posts here and found only people having problems with the new PCIe cards in SLI mobos, but nothing about using PCI cards in say the A8N-SLI Premium which looks like a nice and quiet heatpipe board with an eSATA connector even (single connector for external SATA drives).

    I do not plan to use SLI (I’m not a gamer), only a single nVidia 7800GT card.

    Anyone have experience with this configuration for 10-bit uncompressed?

    I know how incredibly sensitive the DL Extreme is, so I’m not going to run something untested, but I’d really like to move up to dual-core for performance.

    Pretty, please, anybody?

    Ziad replied 20 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Norman Lafranchi

    February 13, 2006 at 9:29 pm

    Hmmm… good question. I would sell your AGP card and buy a PCI-express one instead. All the new dual-core and dual-proc AMD Mo-bos support PCI-Express only.

    for example Tyan has the K8WE motherboards, which support only PCI-Express. Their old Thunder Mo-Bo’,s AGP, are more flaky and may not work with Declink.

  • Bj Ahlen

    February 13, 2006 at 11:55 pm

    I’m concerned that the resale value on a PCI card isn’t so hot, and worse, that many of the new PCIe boards seem to have problems with running both a DL Extreme and a PCI Express video card.

    I’m looking for something that is tested, this is a crucial system for me and it has to work flawlessly.

  • Gene Colburn — email address bounces notices

    February 14, 2006 at 4:05 am

    I would seriously take a look here https://www.asus.com.tw/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=15&l3=0&model=744&modelmenu=1
    This board will run what you need. It will run either dual core athalon 64 or even AMD FX60. also mentioned is the Tyan K8EW, but SATA raid leaves a little bit to be desired. Fine if you are running a single channel SCSI array though.

  • Bj Ahlen

    February 14, 2006 at 5:49 am

    I’ve heard much praise for the A8N32-SLI Deluxe (and the Premium version), but it was my impression that it was not useable with a DL Extreme for some reason I can’t find right now. Has anyone tested it?

    It does have 3xPCI 2.2 slots, which could be a place to put my existing DL Extreme card.

    BM only recommends the Asus A8N-E, which is not a very exciting board.

    For the moment I’m doing OK with a SATA RAID-0 (for D5 uncompressed 10-bit SD), and am hoping that SATA will improve enough to use it for HD compositing before the end of the year even.

    The other possibility is of course one of the new SCSI flavors like iSCSI, but it’s still a drive issue to pay so much more per GB. (Although at least I won’t get high blood pressure from paying for SCSI terminators and overpriced ribbon cables.

  • Norman Lafranchi

    February 14, 2006 at 5:45 pm

    I’m using the Asus A8N32-SLI Premium with a Decklink extreme and a dual-core AMD 4800+ processor. I have an NVidia 7800 GT board. so far so good.

    We also use a Tyan Thunder K8WE with decklink which works fine. The SATA throughput is fine for what we need (SDI 10-bit only). If you needed better then SCSI is the only way to go for HD.

  • Bj Ahlen

    February 14, 2006 at 9:21 pm

    Aaaahhh, relief. Thanks for the feedback!

    Just a few questions:

    1. Are you using a PCI Express DL Extreme card, or the PCI version?

    2. Are you using SATA RAID with the Asus board? I heard the SATA chipset could consume all the bandwidth. preventing the DL from getting enough CPU.

    (I’m also using SDI 10-bit SD for now, but would like for the board to be good for at least basic HD (not 2K).)

  • Norman Lafranchi

    February 15, 2006 at 6:04 pm

    1. Using the PCI-board not the PCI-Express.

    2. We’re not using the PCI RAID on the ASUS, just software RAID-0. (You can disable the RAID and just use the SATA ports as regular ports.)

    Sorry I’m not a good test-case for HD. We’re a good year away from that, by which point we’ll be switching to a new platform, no doubt.

  • Bj Ahlen

    February 15, 2006 at 6:23 pm

    Great, many thanks!

    That gives me courage, as I have seen how sensitive this card is to the hardware configuration.

    I seem to recall that BM recommended soft RAID instead of the hardware RAID for better performance (with the SATA controller configured for JBOD.)

    Now my P4 3.2E is just about dead to the world when trying to do anything else during capture, it really takes over the machine.

    Are you getting any left-over CPU cycles when capturing 10-bit via SDI with your AMD dual-core?

  • Ziad

    February 17, 2006 at 6:50 pm

    Thanks alot guys

    Im going to buy DL EXTREEM PCIe

    Im not sure what board should i get , im confused now after i read the posts

    i need to know what board shoud i buy before next week >>>

    thankx again

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