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  • Where should I spend my

    Posted by Chemix Ferreiro on December 8, 2006 at 1:52 pm

    Hi there all, I’m also posting on AJA forum

    My partner (the “video” guy) and myself (the “techy” one) own a small production studio in the Canary Islands, Spain. We do mostly documentaries & industrial video for local TV sations and Gouvernment agencies.

    I’m in search of an upgrade path to work with HDV footage. Already own a Z1 & A1 but for now, I downconvert to DV from the camera and do all my work on FCP, using a dual G5 PowerMAC, outputting through a Decklink SP to a UVW 1800. Fine for now but my partner & me would like to be able to work entirely in HD, monitoring on our 26″ SAMSUNG LCD and downconvert just to output to SD (most of our clients still ask for it…)

    Our studio:
    Z1, A1
    edit station – dual G5 2.3, Decklink SP, Xserve RAID w/7 ADM, UVW 1800P, DSR 45P, Broadcast field monitor (SD), Samsung LCD, audio, etc…

    We also have a dual G4 (latest build, solid as a rock) used mainly for after effects, photoshop, etc., and a Powerbook G4 that we normally take to all our shooting trips, FW 800 drives, MBox…

    My idea:

    1. “transfer” all SD hardware to the G4 (Decklink SP, Betacam, DVcam…) to ingest the ocassional SD material we get and some SD edit work along with the graphics.

    2. Buy an HDV deck to avoid wear on the Z1.

    3. Prepare the G5 to handle only HD material.

    I don’t see the need for Upconverting realtime so I feel the highest end cards (Kona3 or Decklink HD PRO…) do not apply, leaving me in the Kona LH – Decklink extreme range I guess. Then there’s the AJA IO – Multibridge option… and finally that very affordable (?) Intensity HDMI card.

    Also, how do you connect the HDV deck to the capture card? I’ve read is better to do it through video components, not firewire, but how do you get audio then? and what about controlling the deck…? Can it be controlled via firewire and still receive video through components?

    Uff, I need a coffe or something…

    Any help will be aprecciated

    BUNKER studio
    “edit in paradise”

    Robert Lindqvist replied 19 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Mike Smith

    December 9, 2006 at 11:28 am

    Is FCP right for HDV? Might you do better with Edius, or Axio ..?

  • Darryl Yee

    December 9, 2006 at 1:44 pm

    I’ve been doing a lot of research and the Blackmagic Intensity card seems very compelling. It just started shipping so there’s probably no reviews for it yet. For your deck, you could buy an HDMI Sony HC3 ($1100) and the Intensity card ($250). This $1350 combination takes care of most of your dilemmas: you get a new deck, capture is all digital (it doesn’t use the analog component outs, the HC3 is connected to the card via HDMI which has both audio and video, control is still over firewire), you can capture as uncompressed HD or downsample to DVCPRO-HD which Final Cut Pro handles easily without needing a RAID, the card also has an HDMI out port so you can monitor it on any flat panel display with HDMI (your Samsung probably has it).

    I’m really considering this setup, and unless the Blackmagic crew know otherwise, this camera-card combination will solve a lot of my HDV pain at a reasonable price. Since it doesn’t sound like you need SDI for anything, the only issue is if your G5 is PCI-X or PCI-e.

  • Bob Zelin

    December 9, 2006 at 9:58 pm

    your post Subject asks “where should I spend my money” –

    https://www.etenerife.com/k9-tenerife.htm

    right in the Canary Islands.

    Bob Zelin

  • Chemix Ferreiro

    December 10, 2006 at 9:38 am

    Thanks Bob, If you’ve ever been to the Canaries or know something about this nice, little group of Islands, then you are aware of the two provinces, Gran Canaria & Tenerife, being eternal rivals (soccer, politics, etc…) but here in Gran Canaria we have better beaches, which is all it matters for us islanders. What I didn’t know about Tenerife is their dogs were computer experts, broadcast advisors and technologically advance.

    If you ever plan on coming over… just let me know. I will show you around!

    Thanks again

    BUNKER studio
    “edit in paradise”

  • Kristian Lam

    December 11, 2006 at 2:56 am

    Hi,

    You can capture component video with analog video if you opt for the DeckLink HD Extreme card. You’ll have to control the deck via firewire deck control but make sure the deck is able to down convert on its firewire output as Final Cut Pro does not allow HDV deck control without capturing via firewire so you’ll need to use either Firewire PAL or NTSC as the remote protocol.

    You’ll need some form of level convert for the audio outputs of the deck if they’re consumer level. This tech note should help:

    https://blackmagic-design.com/support/detail.asp?techID=174

    For the video connectors, just get BNC to RCA adapters.

    regards

    Kristian Lam
    Blackmagic Design

  • Robert Lindqvist

    December 14, 2006 at 8:58 am

    …go for Intensity HDMI.
    IF, and I mean IF, you would like to capture uncomressed you CAN with this card.
    (to do that you need HC3 or HVR-M25 with HDMI out)
    But, it could be “better” to capture as native over firewire, edit as native and move to higher
    domain IF needed when doing grafics and certain effects.
    What are the connections on your Samsung LCD? If no HDMI, the Intensity HDMI don’t
    work for client monitoring. Also using consumer grade LCD’s for monitoring is not
    always “good enough”. Very few of those LCD’s are.

    fwiw,
    Rob

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