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  • Where do i get a “white circle” for lip-sync test?

    Posted by Mark Linthicum on August 18, 2009 at 4:06 am

    I am doing a show for PBS and they are asking for a “white circle for lip-sync test”.

    Anyone know what this will look like? can I make it in Photoshop?

    Thanks, Mark

    Thanks, Mark

    Ben Scott replied 16 years, 8 months ago 7 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    August 18, 2009 at 4:48 am

    Hi Mark,
    I’ve never heard of that and I’m very curious to know how a “white circle’ can helps to sync lips.
    Best,
    rafael.

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • David Roth weiss

    August 18, 2009 at 4:59 am

    Mark,

    They’re asking you to put a “2-pop” at the head of your video.

    Exactly 2-seconds before the start of your program place one frame of 1khz tone on the audio track a single one-frame small white circle on the video track. You can create the white circle in Photoshop.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

  • Mark Linthicum

    August 18, 2009 at 5:23 am

    Thanks for the reply,

    They ask for a 400hz pop and a white circle. i know about the Pop and have seen the white circle used before but do not have one to reference. i think they use a device that checks the sync and need something that will be compatible with that device.

    “400 Hz audio tone and single frame
    of white circle for lip-sync test, followed by 29
    frames of silence and absence of white circle.”

    Thanks, mark

    Thanks, Mark

  • Margus Voll

    August 18, 2009 at 7:33 am

    Hi.

    You should ask detailed specs for this circle if tested with some sort of system. Usually pops or pips are used visually on edit.

    Margus

    https://iconstudios.eu

  • David Roth weiss

    August 18, 2009 at 8:38 am

    [Mark Linthicum] “i think they use a device that checks the sync and need something that will be compatible with that device.”

    It’s not rocket science Mark. The white hole used today in video is derived from the simple hole punch in black leader that was used in the days of film editing. Whether it’s checked by man or machine, it makes no difference, it will flash white when the tone beeps. Try the one I made at the following link:

    214_2pop.jpg.zip

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

  • Frank Pledge

    August 18, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    yeah it’s a “hole punch” like David says. Their copy/instructions are confusing though. It’s not really a LIP-sync test. It just confirms physical sync of the pic and sound.

    It seems strange to hold onto the literal hole punch idea. 1 frame of bars seems better as it’s a no-brainer to create and you don’t have to be of a “certain age” to even understand what they’re talking about.

    heh
    fp

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  • Mark Linthicum

    August 18, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    Great Thanks,

    i will use the image you made David.

    Mark

    Thanks, Mark

  • David Roth weiss

    August 18, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Do I get a credit as hole wrangler?

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

  • Mark Linthicum

    August 18, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    You got it!!

    Thanks, Mark

  • Baz Leffler

    August 19, 2009 at 3:18 am

    … and remember, ‘lose lips sinks QC’

    What would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!

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