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John Davidson
May 31, 2011 at 1:24 amHah! No way! But I will say this – Apple’s going to want Lion to be the big news after WWDC on June 7 or 8. Considering FCPX will be a smaller headline, I’d say that increases the odds of FCPX release before WWDC.
John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.
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John Davidson
May 31, 2011 at 1:33 amIn retrospect, because I want the FCPX out so bad, I’m sure it’ll be released June 31st at 11:59pm.
John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.
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Craig Seeman
May 31, 2011 at 2:09 amWhile FCPX will run on Snow Leopard it’ll probably run much better on Lion (my hunch).
Just a guess (aren’t they all) but I wouldn’t be surprised if FCPX is worked into WWDC even if it’s to show Lion capabilities.Based on past history, installing FCP first and then doing a major OS upgrade usually results in having to install FCP again. That could result in major screaming if people don’t release that and Apple gets hit with hundreds of people complaining that Lion broke FCPX. For that reason I think Lion will be announced along with or before FCPX. Either FCPX will push Lion upgrades or Lion will push FCPX upgrades but I’m going to guess they’re going to go hand in hand.
Hence no FCPX until after WWDC.
I also don’t take the Sneak Peek as the “official” announcement so Apple may do an FCPX event to woo the press and get an early round of reviews in the Video Industry Trades.
Apple is all about marketing so I suspect they’ve got something up their sleeves. Whether it’s a rabbit or a Rolex, we’ll know soon but I don’t think FCPX will be a quiet release.
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Tom Daigon
May 31, 2011 at 2:15 amPrepare for the worst…hope for the best.
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Tom Wolsky
May 31, 2011 at 2:42 amAh yes, we’ll just have to keep waiting around for the mythical June 31st to show up.
All the best,
Tom
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Craig Seeman
May 31, 2011 at 4:49 am[Tom Wolsky] “Ah yes, we’ll just have to keep waiting around for the mythical June 31st to show up.”
Original release date was February 30th but they had to move it.
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Benjamin Reichman
June 2, 2011 at 7:24 pm[Tom Wolsky] “Ah yes, we’ll just have to keep waiting around for the mythical June 31st to show up.”
That’s the only day I’m confident FCP X will NOT be released. 😉
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Dennis Radeke
June 3, 2011 at 10:20 am[John Davidson] “Nobody is going to switch to Premiere. That’s the equivalent of threatening to call your old high school girlfriend when you fight with your wife. Premiere may do all these fun things, but as soon as your best client asks for you to dig out an archived FCP project in ProRes and make a revision, you’ll be back. And oh yeah, CS5.5 broke the AJA drivers, so I guess Adobe doesn’t care about pro users either.”
Well… some people are and for those that aren’t, that’s cool too… We’re happy to help whoever with whatever part of Adobe products they want.
As for editing that old FCP project – you can do that on Premiere Pro too. XML and ProRes is just fine.
Lastly and most importantly, Adobe didn’t ‘break’ the AJA drivers. With a new Adobe version, comes a newer version of drivers from AJA to support it. There is generally some delay from the release of the software to the video i/o vendors supporting it. That’s like saying Apple broke the AJA drivers when a new version of FCP comes out. 😉
Dennis – Adobe guy
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Hector Berrebi
June 3, 2011 at 11:01 am[Bob Zelin] “there are many professional hi end editors that generally feel that “FCP-X better be much better than AVID DS or Smoke” – but how many of those users are out there ? Apple is in business to make money, and will try to appeal to the largest audience, including people that have never edited before. As for the hi end professionals, with their hi end requirements – well, I think that this is VERY unimportant to Apple. Even if that pisses off most of the user base of Creative Cow. If FCP-X doesn’t have multiclip, doesn’t have log and capture, doesn’t work with your existing capture I/O cards, and has a new learning curve – BUT products like Adobe Premier DO all of these features, will it be that emotional for you to switch ? Especially since almost everyone reading this already owns Adobe Production Premium ? I am hoping that this is NOT the case, but I am prepared for anything.”
hi Bob..
not sure who expects it to be SMOKE or DS (god i hope it won’t be like DS). i for one expect 3 things, all promised by Apple and all supposedly meant to drastically improve many of my workflows (i didn’t write all…) 64 bit. my damn mac pro has been slacking for the past 4 years with 6 processors and a ton of RAM just sitting there and humming. i want to use this computing power on my daily missions BEFORE i replace my workstation… been waiting for this for the longest time…
no rendering. a lot of my work is on-lining multiple short episodes. if all my rendering was background, I’d save so much time.
and full, accurate color management, which is to be rigorously tested,
but if it works than… yayi can probably deal with many changes… (i started editing when stuff was linear) and creative solution will pop to fix what’s needed… log and capture can be done externally (sometimes even better)… if FCP-X will be as cool as it can be, i could deal with no L&C. and if it will peacefully sit next to FCP7, i could probably find ways to use both. apple maybe doesn’t care about high-end, but as long as they take care of most things below it i think it might be even better.
if FCP-X works perfectly and smoothly with AVCHD, DSLR, P2, XDCAM and Prores (it does support them today, but in any way it can’t be called perfect) it will cover 80% of the work globally (estimating a number… could be lower or higher but not by much) and I’ll love it and use it all the time. even if i have to re-learn it.the high-end work will require skilled pros, like it always did. I’d HATE for a 299$ app sold on line to be able to deal perfectly and easily with high-end. that would be hell for real professionals,
like handing race cars to bad drives…we will always find ways to deal with high-end. we do today, and we did 10 years ago… that’s why people pay us, and that’s why we are pros. software and companies have nothing to do with that.
now on the other hand, if FCP-X won’t cater for traditional stuff done daily everywhere – multicam, IO cards, fast intuitive trim tools, OMF exports, traditional evaluation tools etc’ then we should all kick it in its pink (the logo is pinkish now…right?) ass back to where it was programed
about premier… it maybe does the things you mentioned… but try some heavy trimming with it… or working in a multiple user environment. I’d never switch to adobe. the people who write premiere obviously never edit.
my current escape plan is SMOKE 🙂 or maybe AVID… if MC6 rocks
peace
hector
Hector Berrebi
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Dennis Radeke
June 4, 2011 at 11:47 am[Hector berrebi] “about premier… it maybe does the things you mentioned… but try some heavy trimming with it… or working in a multiple user environment. I’d never switch to adobe. the people who write premiere obviously never edit.”
I’ll be the first one to admit that our trimming model is antiquated and in need of an overhaul. However, if we know it, then that’s the first step to fixing it. As for multiple user environments, FCP has traditionally had the same problem and please don’t say FCP Server… We’re working with partners like MXF Server and others to provide that collaborative editing environment for those users who need it. I’ll be presenting it in LA two weeks from now so its real and available today.
In the end, what we have going for us outweighs the things we’re still working on. The best thing the user has going for it from Adobe? …and this one’s gold considering some other companies out there – PRO-ACTIVE COMMUNICATION
Dennis – Adobe schill. 😉
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