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  • Whats the best way to render out a 3D comp that is 18000 x 9000 pixels?!

    Posted by Daniel Haskett on January 25, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Hey there

    Basically ive got a comp in HD res, so 1920×1080, but its a 3d comp and zooms way out, so i guess the end shot is around 18000 pixels wide. I basically want to render out a few seconds of the end shot so that i can duplicate this and add it around the corners so that i can have lots.

    infact this is the best way to explain it look at this shot

    https://www.danhaskett.co.uk/factory.mov

    it starts of zoomed right in on the boys hands, which are at 1920×1080 res, and then zooms all the way out to that shot, but i need to zoom out even more so there are loads of them, so i was just gonna add this clip around the edges to save on processing power, however my computer wouldnt render out, as it said it was 18000×9000 pixels. i had to do it at a third quality. What can i do to make it render at the right quality?

    Hope this makes sense!

    cheers

    dan

    Tony Silva replied 18 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
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  • David Gudelius

    January 25, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    You’ll have real problems in finding a 3D-software that is able to render at this resolution.
    Cinema 4D is limited up to 15.000 pixels, 3dsmax afaik to 9000, but I’m not sure about that.
    Why don’t you do that zoom in the 3D app?

  • Daniel Haskett

    January 25, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    Is there really no way of doing this in After Effects?

    I’ve never used an 3D apps and wouldn’t know where to start…. plus I need to get this done asap!

    Dan…

    Animator/Illustrator
    https://www.danhaskett.co.uk

  • Simon Roughan

    January 25, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    look at Andrew Kramers world zoom tutorial. that technique should work with this. (ie parenting they layers.) theres no other way that i can think of. AE definately wont handel frame sizes that big.

  • Jan Sherlink

    January 25, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    If it’s just a straight zoom back;
    precomp your animation (keep it 1920×1080),
    continue the zoom-back with the “Motion tile” plug-in in your new comp.

    cya,

    Jan

  • Darby Edelen

    January 25, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    [Daniel Haskett] “however my computer wouldnt render out, as it said it was 18000×9000 pixels”

    That is not the size of your composition. As you first stated above the size of your composition is 1920 x 1080, that’s it. If AE complained about something being 18000×9000 pixels it was complaining about one of the layers in your composition being too large/having too many effects to be successfully cached in memory. You need to break that layer down into pieces and assemble it together.

    Darby Edelen
    Designer
    Left Coast Digital
    Santa Cruz, CA

  • Darby Edelen

    January 25, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    [Simon Roughan] “AE definately wont handel frame sizes that big.”

    The argument is a moot point as he stated that his composition is HD (1920 x 1080) res and a composition’s size cannot change over time. If you zoom out with a camera or scale things down inside the comp you’re not changing the size of the comp, you’re just changing how much of the layers is visible. AE is definitely capable of rendering at 1920 x 1080.

    Darby Edelen
    Designer
    Left Coast Digital
    Santa Cruz, CA

  • Daniel Haskett

    January 25, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    hey darby,

    thanks for your help, well basically if youve seen the video clip, what ive done is got a composition of the boy which is about 3000x 2000 pixels, and then applied motion tile to that in the main comp. i guess that means the motion tiled layer is 18000 x 9000 pixels in size. what would you recommend is the best thing to do in this instance? also obviously when it is zoomed out the quality doesnt need to be as good, i guess its a 18000 x 9000 layer in a 1920×1080 comp, so unnecessary….

    any help would again be much appreciated!

    cheers

    dan

    Animator/Illustrator
    https://www.danhaskett.co.uk

  • Darby Edelen

    January 25, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    I would recommend making each ‘boy’ a separate layer and placing them throughout the composition. If the placement is structured enough that motion tile works, then you could probably use an expression to determine placement of each layer.

    Darby Edelen
    Designer
    Left Coast Digital
    Santa Cruz, CA

  • Daniel Haskett

    January 25, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    cheers darby

    what ive just tried doing now is actually using motion tile in the opposite diretion. basically instead of making more tiles, ive told it scale the individual tile width and height down to 8 percent, and this seems to work…im just wondering if im loosing quality doing this? what do you reckon? it sure seems alot faster and im guessing this means the layer remains the same size….

    thanks

    dan

    Animator/Illustrator
    https://www.danhaskett.co.uk

  • Tony Silva

    January 25, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    The motion tile effect has settings called “Output Width” and Output Height”
    I’m thinking that is where your 18000×9000 output is. Try scaling those settings down until they reach the edge of your comp.

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