What Plug-in to Up-Res 720p to 1080p?

[Shane Ross]

Compressor. An application that comes with FCP.

Shane

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[Bret Williams]

In either case, you want to go to 1080i. There isn’t a 1080p60. So in the case of 720p24, you’ll want to add pulldown, which is interlacing, and in the case of 720p60 you’ll want to map each frame to a separate field of 1080i to retain the perceived resolution. You could use an app to create some sort of blended progressive frames from the 2 frames, but why would you want to? You went to the trouble of shooting 60fps. And 1080i will retain the look of your 24p footage.

[Chris Davis]

Bret and Shane,

Thanks. I am on my wife\’s iPhone so will be back when I can type faster than a word per minute.

Posting now to clarify. I need to upres but not make footage soft. Like PS plugin Genuine Fractals but for video.

[Shane Ross]

[Chris Davis] “I need to upres but not make footage soft. Like PS plugin Genuine Fractals but for video”

Well, to be technical, you aren’t upconverting, you are CROSS converting. Upconverting is SD to HD. You are going from one format of HD to another. 720p to 1080p isn’t that big of a stretch…it won’t be all that soft.

Instant HD is what you need if you want somethng like Genuine Fractals. But I don’t think it does 720p to 1080p. Compressor should do a fine job from 720p to 1080p. The best option would be to capture the 720p at 1080p through a capture card…but since you already have the 720p files, you can’t really use a capture card.

Shane

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[Rafael Amador]

The best thing I’ve found for Mac is SHAKE.
The default filter on a AE doesn’t works for that job. May be with some plugin.
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[Chris Davis]

Shane,

Looks like MB discontinued “Instant HD Advanced,” but perhaps recently replaced it with a 1.2 version that includes “Resizer.” (Quote for MB site below).

Question: Does upressing or cross-converting in compressor get better results than simply putting 720p24 footage in into 1080p24 timeline and rendering in FCP? (I’ve not tried this yet, BTW. Would convert into 720p24 slow motion first).

The main reason I wanted to upres/cross-convert the footage is for heavy cropping for shaky footage. Plan to record 720p60 with very fast shutter for no motion blur, convert to 720p24 or 720p30 in Live Type (I think that’s the application; so it’s slow motion), then denoise, auto stabilize, then add motion blur with Vision Effects “De:Noise.”

The reason I’m saying my planned workflow is I wonder I should just put the 720p24 footage into a 720p timeline, and stabilize and crop heavily in a720 timeline and render.

“Since the release of Magic Bullet Instant HD Advanced in 2008, image scaling has become more sophisticated. Built-in tools such as Apple Compressor are now quite strong. Based on this development, we decided Instant HD Advanced no longer meets our criteria and will be discontinued and removed from our product catalog. This means Magic Bullet Instant HD Advanced will NOT be redeveloped for use in Adobe CS5.”

Rafiel,

Last I heard Shake was not getting more updates. Does it use more than 2 cores for rendering when upressing/crossconverting? I think I read in a FX Apple Training Series book that Shake was great for auto “smooting” and slow motion interpolation (IIRC). I don’t know if Motion or AE are up to the old Shake with auto smoothing for shakey footage yet. Also, did Motion get Shake’s slow motion interpolation abilities yet?

Thanks for your time,

Chris

[Shane Ross]

Well then, use COMPRESSOR. It’s free, and does a good job.

Shane

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[Chris Davis]

Rafael,

Sorry for misspelling your name above.

Shane,

Do you recommend using Compressor to upres/cross-convert 720p24 to 1080p24, then stabilize (and crop heavily, like half the area) in a 720p24 timeline?

OR

Would I get results that are just as good by placing the 720p24 footage in a 720p24 timeline, copping heavily, like half the area, and allowing FCP to sort of “up res” the footage from there?

Thanks again. I hope I was more clear…

-Chris

[Shane Ross]

I have no idea. Why not test and see?

Shane

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[Rafael Amador]

[Chris Davis] “Last I heard Shake was not getting more updates. Does it use more than 2 cores for rendering when upressing/crossconverting? I think I read in a FX Apple Training Series book that Shake was great for auto “smooting” and slow motion interpolation (IIRC). I don’t know if Motion or AE are up to the old Shake with auto smoothing for shakey footage yet. Also, did Motion get Shake’s slow motion interpolation abilities yet”
Hi Chris,
You are right, SHAKE haven’t been long updated although most of his filters are the industry standard since years (probably no much to innovate on software up/downscaling).
With SHAKE you can choose from over 8 different filter for up or downscaling with different properties for different kind of footage/graphics, etc.
I guess that Motion and Compressor use some of those filters too. MOTION offers one of the SHAKE filters (Image Units > Lanczos) for downscaling.

All the “Motion Compensation” technology of Motion and Compressor is inherited from SHAKE, but I think that the “Stabilizer’ on Motion adds some more advanced tracking options that SHAKE.

About processing, Shakes use Qmaster so can use all your computer processor.
rafael.

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