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Michael Gissing
December 8, 2015 at 11:15 pm[Bill Davis] “Check carefully and you’ll see I’ve NEVER claimed that X is faster than any other NLE.”
Not often we agree Bill but I will back you on that. However Niel may well believe you are when you so often make claims about how an X feature is the best thing since sliced bread.
You do so often speak of a feature as if it is exclusive or better in X but when others point out that feature was always in Legend or Pr or AVID etc you do acknowledge when you didn’t know that. By setting yourself as a proclaimer for X it is inevitable that people will assume you speak from a deeper experience of many NLE systems. More regular readers of this forum over the years may know you don’t.
Personally I understand that when you have found a software program that works the way you want it too that it makes everything much more fun and you want to share the love. I am much the same with my preference for Fairlight over ProTools which I have almost never used and like you I try to avoid comparisons.
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Phil Lowe
December 8, 2015 at 11:22 pmNo need for air quotes, as that claim is also true. At least for folks who see that from X in their work. Eye of the beholder and all that, right? For those who don’t, there are plenty of other “modern” NLE’s from which to choose. 😉
Touche’. 😉
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Bill Davis
December 8, 2015 at 11:22 pm[Michael Gissing] “By setting yourself as a proclaimer for X it is inevitable that people will assume you speak from a deeper experience of many NLE systems. More regular readers of this forum over the years may know you don’t.”
Well, I’m not sure I “set myself up” as anything. All I’ve done since day one is read people who post about how they THINK X works, (particularly in the beginning when it’s clear most people had internalized WAY more anger than actual knowledge – and express my disagreements when I think they have it wrong.
Maybe it’s a “glass half full/half empty” thing.
I say what I say from a place of honest conviction – and if it doesn’t connect with what someone else thinks, they presume I’m claiming shortage in their opinion when I’m actually describing abundance within mine?
Of course that might well describe about 90% of internet discussions – and so it goes. ; )
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Michael Gissing
December 8, 2015 at 11:23 pm[Bill Davis]”So Michael, what are the metrics that YOU think should lead the discussion?”
No need to ask. Just read my contributions to this thread. My first contribution was the second post in this thread.
And if you don’t know that my focus is collaborative multi facility workflows then I guess you haven’t been reading all my other threads.
As to what matters in the world of post production, I am at the end of my career so what really matters is what has always mattered which is the long form documentary and pushing technology forward. I have never cared about the lowest common denominator or where the bulk of editors and creatives will be working in the next ten years. Next year I am going back to my roots and making documentaries rather than just finishing others. So my ongoing focus will not be this forum, especially if it just focuses on X as an editorial engine.
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Bill Davis
December 8, 2015 at 11:27 pm[Michael Gissing] “So my ongoing focus will not be this forum, especially if it just focuses on X as an editorial engine.”
Check.
So no need to help you connect with those who are delightedly using X for exactly that type of work.
Got it.
Carry on.
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Michael Gissing
December 8, 2015 at 11:31 pm[Bill Davis]”So no need to help you connect with those who are delightedly using X for exactly that type of work.”
Thanks for the condescending dismissal. For my own projects I will employ editors who can creatively cut. Couldn’t give a rats about the software they choose as long as the workflow is solid and reliable.
But hey if I need to ‘connect’ I’ll give you a holler.
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Michael Gissing
December 8, 2015 at 11:34 pm[Bill Davis]”Well, I’m not sure I “set myself up” as anything.”
Too modest. Having just told us how “internet famous” you are, I find that amusing.
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Charlie Austin
December 8, 2015 at 11:37 pm[Michael Gissing] “Thanks for the condescending dismissal.”
Not directed at anyone in particular, just an observation but… I think if there were less condescending dismissal from everyone, no matter what their position in the “debate”, it would be much more productive here. Maybe not as much fun. lol There are some really great conversations here when the sniping is dialed back.
Full Disclosure: I’m also trying to heed my own advice. 😉
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Phil Lowe
December 8, 2015 at 11:54 pmOne of my many complaints bout FCPX, Bill, which is equally true of FCP7, I might add, is that I cannot see clip lengths associated with clips on the timeline. You either have to select the clip or look elsewhere on the screen for that information. I can customize – to a great extent – the information the Avid timeline presents me associated with each and every clip, so that this information is immediately available at a glance, without hovering over the clip or selecting it. In most cases, I prefer simply displaying the clip duration right on the clip, but I can also indicate the clip name and other metadata should I choose.
I can choose to display audio waveforms if I wish. I turn those off because they adversely affect performance.
I can customize the color of my tracks, so that I immediately know – at a glance – whether I’m looking at video or audio (yes, I know, this is true in X, too).
In short, what I know of both so far, is that the Avid timeline can be customized to meet my needs based on any type of edit I do, and that customization helps make me faster using it by presenting as much or as little information as I want.
And then there’s this:
Sitting immediately above my Avid timeline (where the timecode sits in X) is my timecode tool. While it is currently customized for only four timecode iterations, I can use up to eight lines, if needed, all available at a glance.
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Michael Gissing
December 8, 2015 at 11:55 pm[Charlie Austin] “Full Disclosure: I’m also trying to heed my own advice. ;-)”
wise advice and I too will do my best.
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