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  • Oliver Peters

    March 9, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    I believe if you play any of the Beatles tracks available on iTunes backwards, you can hear Jobs’ embedded voice saying “the Mac Pro is dead”. 😉

    Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Herb Sevush

    March 9, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “I believe if you play any of the Beatles tracks available on iTunes backwards, you can hear Jobs’ embedded voice saying “the Mac Pro is dead”.”

    Beautiful. Thanks.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Herb Sevush

    March 9, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    [Ronald Lindeboom] “we were all waiting in line at the Swing Auditorium in San Bernardino to see Leon Russell, Procol Harum and Uriah Heep”

    I’m hoping Procol Harum was the headliner. Even at $5 I wouldn’t wait in line for Uriah Heep.

    In NYC there used to be a series of summer concerts in Central Park at the old Wollman Skating Rink – I think Schaeffer Beer was the sponsor. $3 for 2 acts. Best bang for the buck – I saw Led Zeppelin, touring behind their first album, with B.B King as the opener. When LZ came on stage Robert Plant kept apologizing for headlining over B.B – said he wanted to do it the other way but the promoters wouldn’t let them.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 9, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “I believe if you play any of the Beatles tracks available on iTunes backwards, you can hear Jobs’ embedded voice saying “the Mac Pro is dead”. ;-)”

    And if you play BB King backwards it says, “Then why haven’t they killed it?”

  • Christian Schumacher

    March 9, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] ” And if you play BB King backwards it says, “Then why haven’t they killed it?””

    Playing Slayer backwards it says “It’s on the chopping block, but first we’ve got to deal with the MacBookPro”

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 9, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    [Christian Schumacher] “Playing Slayer backwards it says “It’s on the chopping block, but first we’ve got to deal with the MacBookPro””

    Playing Harry Nilsson backwards it says, “What is there to deal with?”

  • James Mortner

    March 9, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    [Andrew Kimery] ” Today I think desktops are approaching where ‘big iron’ computers were a decade ago,”

    And where do you think “big-iron” machines are today ? Take a look at Baselight grading clusters, Flames or Smokes…

    [Andrew Kimery] ” No. But it will work good enough for enough pros that it will help do to desktop towers what desktop towers did to ‘big iron’ rigs.”

    Honestly, good enough ain’t going to cut it round my area. People just dont have time to stare at operators waiting for renders etc

  • Christian Schumacher

    March 9, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    https://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/02/10/apple_to_disrupt_notebook_space_with_radically_redesigned_macbook_pros.html

    “In particular, people familiar with Apple’s roadmap say the Cupertino-based company currently plans to exit 2012 having completed a top-to-bottom revamp of its notebooks lineup that will see new MacBook Pros adopt the same design traits that have made its MacBook Airs an increasingly popular choice among mobile consumers.

    This will include new, ultra-thin unibody enclosures that jettison yesteryear technologies like optical disk drives and traditional hard drives in favor of models with lightweight chassis that employ flash-memory based solid-state drives, instant-on capabilities, extended battery life, and rely on digital distribution for software and media.”

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 9, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    The Air is an awesome machine. Not ideal for editing, but awesome.

    If you play led zeppelin backwards they’d say, a 17″ laptop without a DVD drive is fine by me.

  • Andrew Kimery

    March 9, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    [James Mortner] “And where do you think “big-iron” machines are today ? Take a look at Baselight grading clusters, Flames or Smokes…”

    They are being used in smaller and smaller numbers than they were a decade ago. Since Blackmagic purchased DaVinci how many users do you think are running Resolve on an off-the-shelf machine vs some monster with 16 GPUs in it? Now that Smoke is on OSX I wonder how many people will use it on an everyday Mac Pro? Sure, they won’t get top end performance but if they could afford the top end performance they’d probably already have Smoke running in their shop.

    [James Mortner] “Honestly, good enough ain’t going to cut it round my area. People just dont have time to stare at operators waiting for renders etc”

    And your area, like some of my areas, is a place Apple isn’t going to cater too. I’d say they never really catered to it but the tools they offered were good enough, and inexpensive enough, that a lot of people didn’t see the point in paying 10x the price for the performance difference. How many people opted to configure an entire FCP editing suite for less than the price of just an Avid Adrenaline? How many people opted to grade using Color (or FinalTouch before Apple bought it), Symphony or even FCP’s 3-way CC because they couldn’t afford to walk into a DaVinci suite that cost 6 figures?

    There will always be a high-end niche that has the money, and the clients, to get the best & fastest gear out there. But it’s a small niche and an ever shrinking niche. The constant march of technology ensures that. Sure, we’ll find bigger things to throw at the machines (4k for example) but the landscape now has many shades of gray where as recently as 10yrs ago it was pretty black and white. A decade ago if I wanted to capture and spit out uncompressed video I was looking for a tower and some fast, expensive storage. Today any mac with ThB can do the job for a fraction of the price.

    -Andrew

    2.9 GHz 8-core (4,1), FCP 7.0.3, 10.6.6
    Blackmagic Multibridge Eclipse (7.9.5)

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