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Timothy Auld
March 9, 2012 at 12:25 amYeah, I’m waiting for NAB (which I might actually go to this year after a four or so year hiatus) to provide some clarity. It probably will with software. With hardware? I think it’s gonna be anybody’s guess, at least for this year.
Tim
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Ron Lindeboom
March 9, 2012 at 12:30 am[Michael Gissing] “Main Bull surely!”
“The main bull, Shirley.”
Wow, now you have me really confused, Michael. My name is Ronald.
;o)
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Ronald Lindeboom
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“Be who you are and say what you feel because those that matter, don’t mind — and those that mind, don’t matter.” – Dr. Seuss
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Gerald Baria
March 9, 2012 at 12:53 amIf there is no new macpro, and all thats left are the top end iMacs..should’nt Thunderbolt be able to solve all the extra power needs? Like these things from Sonnet? https://www.sonnettech.com/product/thunderbolt/index.html It is my understanding that you can connect Top class multiple GPUs, RedRockets, RAID etc thru one of those thunderbolt adapters to any TB enabled mac right? So what the problem? Ever heard of the macbook air that can edit/playback 4k redcode raw files? https://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2012/01/editing-red-video-on-a-macbook-air.html
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Frank Gothmann
March 9, 2012 at 1:10 am[Gerald Baria] “It is my understanding that you can connect Top class multiple GPUs, RedRockets, RAID etc thru one of those thunderbolt adapters to any TB enabled mac right? So what the problem?”
In fact, you can’t connect even one GPU via Thunderbolt, let alone multiple top class ones. It’s 4x pipe is way too slow to allow for a GPU to deliver its full performance and it just isn’t possible under OSX at the moment at all, regardless of the bandwith limitation. As far as the rest is concerned, yeah, some options there, but video io, a raid and two monitors at the same time and there goes your bandwith and reliability.
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Timothy Auld
March 9, 2012 at 1:14 amOf course. Thunderbolt solves all problems just as firewire did when it came out ten years ago. Look at the profusion of Thunderbolt products available for me today. Clearly the industry is rushing headlong toward Thunderbolt technology. I don’t know how I missed it.
Tim
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Moody Glasgow
March 9, 2012 at 1:14 amIf you are running a Smoke, a 4 core Imac is woefully underpowered.
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Jeremy Garchow
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Andrew Kimery
March 9, 2012 at 3:39 amThunderbolt can solve a number of problems but not every problem. In situations where you need connectivity, but not necessarily the most horsepower, you were stuck with buying a Mac Pro even if an iMac would do. That’s no longer the case.
Where I used to work we had about 25 seats on an Xsan and video router and they all had to be towers for connectivity reasons even though half of them were basically capture stations. Now w/ThB the non-editing stations are either going to be replaced with iMacs or Mac Minis using ThB adapters to connect to the Xsan and video router.
I think we are on the cusp of another hardware shift. 10-12yrs ago you basically had ‘big iron’ machines (ex. SGI) for heavy lifting, desktops for everyday tasks and laptops for internet/email while on the go. Today I think desktops are approaching where ‘big iron’ computers were a decade ago, laptops are the new everyday machines, and iPads are the new laptops for internet/email while on the road.
When Apple drops the traditional tower from it’s line up (and this might not be until ThB goes optical) I think they’ll introduce a new vision of the desktop computer (I’m thinking something that looks more like a Mac Mini on steroids than a Mac Pro). Will it work for everyone? No. But it will work good enough for enough pros that it will help do to desktop towers what desktop towers did to ‘big iron’ rigs.
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Helmut Kobler
March 9, 2012 at 4:21 amIf they cancel the Mac Pro, I will probably linger on with my 2009 model for a while, and then hope I have the guts to give an HP Z820 a try.
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Ron Lindeboom
March 9, 2012 at 11:54 am[Herb Sevush] “Next you’ll be quoting Seals and Crofts.”
I had to smile at that, Herb. True story: one concert in a galaxy far far away, we were all waiting in line at the Swing Auditorium in San Bernardino to see Leon Russell, Procol Harum and Uriah Heep and who should be playing out on the sidewalk for those waiting in line? You guessed it, Seals & Crofts. Ends up they were recording their first album and so the show promoters introduce them at the start of the show and tell everybody that “Those guys that were playing out on the sidewalk are recording their first record for Warner Bros., which will be out in a few months and so here they are to do a few songs for you all, Seals & Crofts.”
It was an awesome show. Quite remarkable. Oh yeah, and it cost me all of about $5 or so as I recall. ;o)
Best regards,
Ronald Lindeboom
CEO, Creative COW LLC
Publisher, Creative COW Magazine
A 2011 FOLIO: 40 honoree as one of the 40 most influential publishers in America
http://www.creativecow.netCreativity is a process wherein the student and the teacher are located in the same individual.
“Incompetence has never prevented me from plunging in with enthusiasm.” – Woody Allen
“Be who you are and say what you feel because those that matter, don’t mind — and those that mind, don’t matter.” – Dr. Seuss
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