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  • What are the best settings to use with Compressor? Is Compressor any good?

    Posted by Alex Bond on January 19, 2006 at 5:34 pm

    Nearing the end of my DVD authoring initiation…

    I’ve compressed a load of files from Media 100 (using it’s Video compressor) to large Quicktime Files then put them through Compressor changing the Brightness and Contrast (to counter Media 100s Studio RGB settings) and with the correct Field Dominance settings throughout.

    When the resulting Compressor MPEG files are put through DVD Studio Pro 3 and the DVD mastered, the quality of the pictures isn’t that great. Specifically where there are colour gradients on screen. For example where there are Light to Dark sections of wall/sky or underwater footage you can clearly see ‘stepping’ in the colours, ie not a smooth grad.

    Is there a way round this or am I asking too much of this software combination to end up with professional looking DVDs of the same quality as the ones I buy in HMV?

    Thanks in advance for any advice.

    Alex.

    System:

    G5 with 2gb of ram
    Compressor Ver 1.2.1 using: MPEG-2 60min High Quality Encode Widescreen
    Media 100 HD
    DVD Studio Pro 3.0.2
    All footage originally in PAL Digi-Beta format

    Alex Bond replied 20 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Chris Borjis

    January 19, 2006 at 6:12 pm

    I would sure like to know this as well.
    I’ve got a quad G5 on the way and will be doing a lot of DVD work
    there. Exporting to a pc just for mpeg encoding shouldn’t be
    necessary imo.

    As to the stepping, you will see some of that no matter what you
    do as mpeg is unfortunately an 8-bit format and doesn’t have
    the extra bits to make that gradient smooth. It should not be
    so bad that it looks posterized though. if thats what your seeing
    there must be a way to make that look better.

  • Eric Pautsch

    January 19, 2006 at 6:58 pm

    It all depends how long you video is. What was your bitrate? Compressor is not the greatest encoder in the world but it sure save ALOT of time when used with FCP and DVDSP.

  • Alex Bond

    January 19, 2006 at 9:45 pm

    I used a Variable Bitrate between 7.2 and 8.4 from memory

  • Chris Borjis

    January 20, 2006 at 5:17 pm

    You probably shouldn’t exceed 7,500 on the bitrate and be sure
    your audio is AC-3 (compressor makes ac-3 files now)

    what were your GOP settings?

    Is compressor worse than Tsunami?

    I’ve heard people say compressor is a great tool.
    I definitely want to keep everything as efficient as possible
    for workflow. If there are lots of settings to control there
    must be a way to maximize its output to good quality video

  • Alex Bond

    January 20, 2006 at 5:24 pm

    I’ve not used Tsunami I’m afraid.

    Here are the settings I used:

    Vision:

    Name: MPEG-2 60min High Quality Encode Widescreen-Copy
    Description: 6.8Mbps,2-Pass VBR,16:9
    File Extension: m2v
    Video Encoder
    Format: M2V
    Width: 720
    Height: 576
    Pixel aspect ratio: 0.703
    Crop: None
    Frame rate: 25
    Aspect ratio: 16:9
    Field dominance: Top first
    Average data rate: 6.8 (Mbps)
    2 Pass VBR enabled
    Maximum data rate: 7.5 (Mbps)
    High quality
    Best motion estimation
    Open GOP Size: 12, Structure: IBBP
    DVD Studio Pro meta-data enabled
    Brightness Contrast
    Brightness: -12.000000
    Contrast: 3.000000
    Color Correct Midtones
    Red: 10.000000
    Green: 10.000000
    Blue: 10.000000

    Audio:

    Name: DVD PCM Audio
    Description: AIFF 48Khz,16bit,Stereo
    File Extension: aiff
    Audio Encoder
    Format: QT
    Sample Rate: 48.000kHz
    Channels: 2
    Bits Per Sample: 16
    Codec Type: Uncompressed

  • Chris Borjis

    January 23, 2006 at 8:36 pm

    If it were me I would change a few settings to:

    max bitrate: 7,500
    average: 6,000

    Closed GOP Size: 6, Structure: IBBPBBPBBP
    (I:1 B:2 P:3)

    (This smaller gop will help increase the quality)

    It’s usually not a good idea to do color correction in the encoder
    as it usually adds a lot more time to the compression job than if you
    just color corrected the timeline plus the results may not be exactly as expected.

    Audio looks right, but I would definitely compress it to AC-3 at 256kbps minimum. This way you have less chance of stuttering on playback and a lot more room for bits going to video. Yet the sound quality will be nearly exactly the same.

  • Chris Borjis

    January 23, 2006 at 8:40 pm

    Forgot to say you should get absolutely excellent picture quality if you stick with those settings.

    There is no reason at all for it too look bad unless compressor is a bogus encoder (find hard to believe)

    With those settings in Tsunami, there would be no pixelization. It would be a crisp clean picture.

    If its DV or VHS material you will see some compression (deep reds and angles) but thats because of DV and VHS not giving you much to begin with.

  • Alex Bond

    January 24, 2006 at 12:24 pm

    damn – i’ve just recompressed it all without trying your new settings you suggested – had to leave it overnight too…I’ll give them a go anyway though.

    If you think those settings (the ones i’ve already used) should look good, do you think maybe it’s the compression on DVDSP that’s making the picture look naff?

    (Thanks for all your help so far 🙂 )

  • Alex Bond

    January 24, 2006 at 2:15 pm

    Tried changing the GOP settings but couldn’t see any marked difference. I also increased DVDSP’s settings to “Bit Rate – 6.0” and “Max Bit Rate – 8.0”. Previously I had “Bit Rate” set to 3.2.

    I’m using Two Pass VBR with Best Motion Estimation.

  • Chris Borjis

    January 24, 2006 at 7:25 pm

    sounds good. let me know how it turns out (I’m about to start authoring on DVSP soon)

    Your bit rate maximum should not exceed 7,500. Recordable media doesn’t have the high-reflective and error correction of replicated (metal) discs. Some of your end users could experience stuttering on playback if you go higher than 7,500 vbr.

    If your average was set for 3,000 that explains why it looked bad.

    The GOP changes will definitely keep the quality higher as the image becomes more complex. (everything moving) other than maintaining quality, the picture itself will not really improve and the filesize will be a bit larger.

    DVDSP itself should not have any affect on the picture quality. It just brings it all together with metadata for compiling.

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