We want a New MacPro

[Robert Ober]

Better yet, write (snail mail) to the Apple CEO.

And folks, get over the Facebook fad. Some of us prefer not to use a service that can’t respect it’s users.

Y’all be cool,
Robert:-)

[Tom Daigon]

Man this is getting pathetic . Have some self respect and stop groveling in public 😀

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
Mac Pro 3,1
8 core
10.7.3
Nvidia Quadro 4000
24 gigs ram
Maxx Digital / Areca 8tb. raid
Kona 3

[Ron Pestes]

Obviously you have not seen how good Windows handles PP. You must just be a fanboy!

ronpesteshdvideo.com
Apple Certified Master Pro FCS 2
Sony EX-3
MacBook Pro
Dell M6600
Adobe CS6 Production Premium

[Mark Brown]

Meanwhile, back on topic…
A Best Buy geek in Oregon told me to be sure an drop in next month and look at the new Mac Pros. Consider the source. Since Sir Jon is now the keeper of Apple’s secrets, I told the geek I will believe it when I see it.

[Jim Wiseman]

I am not groveling. You seem to be the Windows shill around here. I merely find the Mac to be the superior machine that is in need of an upgrade and OSX a far better operating system. This comes from experience with both OS’s and having to support both systems. As a video VAR for 10 years with about 250 customers, I got more OS related trouble calls from from the 10 Windows based users I had than the 240 Mac OS systems combined. Why don’t you buy your PC and let us just move on? It is the Mac based users Adobe is going for, after all. How many people do you think the user base of FCP 7 was compared to Premiere before FCPX? Those are the numbers Adobe is running and the users they are after. So is Avid. Both are supporting the Mac because they know those users represent where their growth is. I see no “groveling” in hoping that the hardware/software system that non-linear editing was born on via Avid should continue. I am not “groveling”, I just happen to love my Mac, and based on the current state of Dell and HP, apparently a lot of other people do too. Look at the stock prices. HP almost quit making PC’s less than a year ago. Dell is going in the tank 17% down last week. Apple’s valuation 24x Dell’s. If you want to put your money on those horses, go ahead. But don’t ever insult me with a comment like that again just because I have an opinion that I can back up with the ones of my large sample of editors here in Hawaii. It will be a sad day for a lot of people if the Mac Pro is end of life.

Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1,Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1, Premiere Pro 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Avid MC, Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz 24Gb RAM GTX-285 120GB SSD, Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 8Gb SSD, G5 Quadcore PCIe

[Ron Pestes]

I think someone forgot to take their happy pill. 🙂

ronpesteshdvideo.com
Apple Certified Master Pro FCS 2
Sony EX-3
MacBook Pro
Dell M6600
Adobe CS6 Production Premium

[Tom Daigon]

[Jim Wiseman] ” am not groveling. You seem to be the Windows shill around here. I merely find the Mac to be the superior machine that is in need of an upgrade and OSX a far better operating system. This comes from experience with both OS’s and having to support both systems. As a video VAR for 10 years with about 250 customers, I got more OS related trouble calls from from the 10 Windows based users I had than the 240 Mac OS systems combined. Why don’t you buy your PC and let us just move on? It is the Mac based users Adobe is going for, after all. How many people do you think the user base of FCP 7 was compared to Premiere before FCPX? Those are the numbers Adobe is running and the users they are after. So is Avid. Both are supporting the Mac because they know those users represent where their growth is. I see no “groveling” in hoping that the hardware/software system that non-linear editing was born on via Avid should continue. I am not “groveling”, I just happen to love my Mac, and based on the current state of Dell and HP, apparently a lot of other people do too. Look at the stock prices. HP almost quit making PC’s less than a year ago. Dell is going in the tank 17% down last week. Apple’s valuation 24x Dell’s. If you want to put your money on those horses, go ahead. But don’t ever insult me with a comment like that again just because I have an opinion that I can back up with the ones of my large sample of editors here in Hawaii. It will be a sad day for a lot of people if the Mac Pro is end of life.”

Easy Jim. Your sounding a bit paranoid around the edges. It might be time to chill out about this Mac thing.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
Mac Pro 3,1
8 core
10.7.3
Nvidia Quadro 4000
24 gigs ram
Maxx Digital / Areca 8tb. raid
Kona 3

[Al Bergstein]

I don’t understand Jim’s request. Apple’s web page shows three models. You can spend $5k if you want the OS and 12 core. Apple seems to have a wide range of machines. If I could get my projects over to Adobe without major rework (which has not been the case) I’d be glad to sell my Mac Pro to move everything to my much cheaper and much faster Dell workstation. I’ve not had the problems that Jim mentions on Windows. But everyone is different. Windows has taken a long time to get to a relatively stable platform for video production. I would not have been on it during XP for example, nor Vista. But 7 has been great.

Anyway, to all who want a new Mac Pro, the best way to get one is to buy today’s machines, so Apple won’t think that it’s a dead end, which I assume they do, because of the lack of change in the model lines.

If FCP 7 didn’t fit Apples idea of professional video editing, and they chose to purposely go into the fiasco of X, then they have even less reason to think that the MP has a future in their product line. And if they kill that, Jim, it’s likely that the exodus to Windows will continue full bore.

Al

[Jim Wiseman]

I have one of today’s machines. A 5.1 2010. I just want the line to continue and for people who do need one to feel confident about buying one. I don’t just run Premiere Pro. In fact I just started using it last year. I found 5 and 5.5 to be somewhat flaky on the Mac. 6.0.1 seems much better. I realize that Premiere has mostly been used by people on PC’s and would expect this is why I get “why don’t you just switch” kind of responses here, but I would guess there are a heck of a lot more people out there who have been using FCP on Macs than have been using Premiere on PC’s. I have a lot of software that is Mac only and have had bad experiences with Windows, and I know and read about many others who have as well. Things like having to reinstall the system at least once a year or more to fix problems. I don’t care to experiment with even the newer versions of it. I know of people that have not had to shutdown OSX MacPros for 8 months, just put in standby when not using. They are that stable. No system re-installs or major problems. My MacPro 5.1 2010 will be good for years to come. I have Macs that are 15 years plus that are still running. If no new Mac Pro I will be fine for the work I do.

I am not being “paranoid”. I just strongly prefer OSX. I also find Tom’s comment about “groveling” profoundly insulting. Can any of you understand that? I’m just glad he didn’t make it to my face. Time to cool out, Tom. Both of us. I will be using Premiere and a lot of other software for a quite a while yet. But only on whatever Mac will run it.

Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1,Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1, Premiere Pro 5.5 and 6.0, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Avid MC, Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz 24Gb RAM GTX-285 120GB SSD, Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 8Gb SSD, G5 Quadcore PCIe

[Tom Daigon]

Jim, I am have have been very calm and collected in this dialog. You seem to be the one with some anger management problems. Enough so that others have commented as well. Learn to deal with folks that may have different options then yours. I have.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
Mac Pro 3,1
8 core
10.7.3
Nvidia Quadro 4000
24 gigs ram
Maxx Digital / Areca 8tb. raid
Kona 3