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Gary Adcock
August 29, 2006 at 3:53 pm[Ben Holmes] ” Thanks everyone – that covers everything! Nice to get some help back. Don’t you ever have questions to ask Walter? Must be something you don’t know…. Be nice to help you one day.”
We know who we can talk to when we need our questions answered.
Stop by the AJA booth at IBC and say hi.
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
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Gary Adcock
August 29, 2006 at 3:58 pm[Ben Holmes] ” I can use DVCPro HD to capture at 1080i, albeit at 1440×1080 for 50i. Correct?”
correct @ 50i —- at 60i it is a 1280×1080 frame size.
[Ben Holmes] “Do you use the format as 720p or 1080i Walter? “
Stay with the camera native frame size- so if it is shot at 1080 stay at 1080 –cross converting is not advisable.
[Ben Holmes] “Presumably using it 1080i reduces RT performance and ups render times? I presume all the DVCPro HD codecs have a 100Mb/s bitrate?”
I do not see an appreciable difference between 720p50 and 1080 50i in RT performance if anything the 1080 is a tad faster due to the less stringent demands of interlace over progressive playback.
gary adcock
Studio37
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Ben Holmes
August 29, 2006 at 4:06 pm[gary adcock] “do not see an appreciable difference between 720p50 and 1080 50i in RT performance if anything the 1080 is a tad faster due to the less stringent demands of interlace over progressive playback. “
That makes perfect sense. Thanks Gary!
Ben
Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
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Shane Ross
August 29, 2006 at 5:48 pmJust FYI, you don’t need to go 10-bit uncompressed when working with HDV or DVCPRO HD footage for final output. Since both are 8-bit codecs, going to 8-bit uncompressed HD for ouput is your best choice. All you will gain in going to 10-bit will be file size.
We sent a test output on DVCPRO HD to The History Channel so they can evaluate if they will take DVCPRO HD masters. All of my footage was Varicam and P2 from the HVX-200. Currently they want HDCAM 1080p 23.98…but are looking at ways to save productions money as they increased the requirements of shows from SD to HD without really increasing the budgets that much.
Shane
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Walter Biscardi
August 29, 2006 at 5:59 pm[Chi-Ho Lee] “ok, but what about outputting? Which card must you use to output HDV to DVCPro HD?
What is it that makes it easier on these cards to capture and convert to any format but harder to output/crossconvert that you need the Kona 3 that the Kona 2 is unable to do?”
As far as I know, you cannot convert an HDV timeline to DVCPro HD on the fly during output. This is only accomplished during capture. You can output your HDV project via HD-SDI from what I understand, but as far as converting it to a different format, that’s only on ingest.
Cross-Converting from 720 to 1080i or vice versa was only accomplished with something like a Terranex until just this past year I believe. It’s obviously not a simple process or everyone would have it on all their cards.
If you want to know the particulars I would suggest you contact AJA Tech Support and ask them. I really don’t care how / why it works, I just know that it does and it does so flawlessly.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Walter Biscardi
August 29, 2006 at 6:00 pm[Shane Ross] “Currently they want HDCAM 1080p 23.98…but are looking at ways to save productions money as they increased the requirements of shows from SD to HD without really increasing the budgets that much.”
And I can assure you History Channel is not the only network asking for HD on basically an SD budget. I don’t even want to discuss the budgets for our upcoming series.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Mark Maness
August 29, 2006 at 7:09 pm[walter biscardi] “[Shane Ross] “Currently they want HDCAM 1080p 23.98…but are looking at ways to save productions money as they increased the requirements of shows from SD to HD without really increasing the budgets that much.”
And I can assure you History Channel is not the only network asking for HD on basically an SD budget. I don’t even want to discuss the budgets for our upcoming series.”
Shocking isn’t it? I gave my boss a migraine when he said we are adding another show and he thought we could edit three shows with one system…. RIGHT?
I’m just waiting to see how the Sony XDCAM HD is going to play into this. Sony is betting a lot on this puppy…
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Walter Biscardi
August 29, 2006 at 7:34 pm[Wayne Carey] “Shocking isn’t it? I gave my boss a migraine when he said we are adding another show and he thought we could edit three shows with one system…. RIGHT?”
Hey that’s easy. You edit 7am – 5pm. Then Bob edits 5pm – 3am. Then Jim edits 5am – 3pm.
See. No problem. Right?
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Mark Maness
August 29, 2006 at 8:39 pm[walter biscardi] “Hey that’s easy. You edit 7am – 5pm. Then Bob edits 5pm – 3am. Then Jim edits 5am – 3pm.
See. No problem. Right? “
Sounds good to me…. Hey… wait a mintue! I’m the only editor!
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Shane Ross
August 29, 2006 at 9:00 pmOne editor with THREE SHOWS!?!?
Dude…he needs to hire another editor…And another system.
It amazes me how cheap people can be. It didn’t used to…I had gotten used to a certain level of INEXPENSIVENESS in production and post. But lately they are getting even more extreme. Not only wanting more from us…but for less.
The HD show at the price of an SD show is sheer stupidity.
Shane
Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net
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