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Walter – HD DVCPro edit workflow
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[gary adcock] “you will need a Kona 3 to be able to do that from 720p material however.
the Kona 2 does not do the cross convert”Do you mean convert to 1080i, or to 720p HD-SDI signal? Need to have a good look at the Kona product page again, I think. Always thought the Kona 2 upconverted and downconverted to whatever I wanted…
Ben
Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations.“The Supercar Run” now available for international distribution from http://www.electricsky.com
See you at IBC – we’re there with our FCP/replay truck…
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The Kona 2 will up and down, but not cross convert. You need a Kona 3 to do 720p<>1080i. Also, uprezzing DV50 footage works well. If you aren’t in the Terranex market, using the 1200A to do the uprez yields pretty good results. I have yet to check out the little Terranex mini and compare quality. The Kona 2 is good in a pinch.
Jeremy
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[Ben Holmes] “[gary adcock] “you will need a Kona 3 to be able to do that from 720p material however.
the Kona 2 does not do the cross convert”Do you mean convert to 1080i, or to 720p HD-SDI signal? Need to have a good look at the Kona product page again, I think. Always thought the Kona 2 upconverted and downconverted to whatever I wanted…”
Kona 2 WILL Upconvert and Downcovert. It WILL NOT Cross Convert.
So if you have a 720p DVCPro HD timeline to lay off to 1080i HDCAM, you must have the Kona 3 for the cross convert. It is absolutely flawless.
Keep in mind the Kona 3 ONLY works in PCIe Machines like the G5 Quad and the new Mac Pros.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[JeremyG] “f you aren’t in the Terranex market, using the 1200A to do the uprez yields pretty good results.”
Again, not very good with DV material. We’ve tested both our 1200A and the Konas with DV material and neither is nearly as good as a terannex with Mini DV material.
Anything else, the Konas are fantastic.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was specifically talking DV50 material as Ben had asked. I agree that mini dv does not look so good.
Jeremy
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Wow. Thanks everyone – that covers everything! Nice to get some help back. Don’t you ever have questions to ask Walter? Must be something you don’t know…. Be nice to help you one day.
We’ll have to go to Kona 3’s when we upgrade (eventually) to Mac Pros. Of course, this extra functionality on the Kona 3 certainly pushes things forward. Looking forward to some HD DVC Pro testing now.
Ben
Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations.“The Supercar Run” now available for international distribution from http://www.electricsky.com
See you at IBC – we’re there with our FCP/replay truck…
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So converting HDV to DVCProHD is considered upconverting? and not cross converting? Meaning the Kona 2 will be able to do this?
How about from HDV to HDCam/1080i? Is that up? or cross?
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Chi-Ho Lee
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[Chi-Ho Lee] “So converting HDV to DVCProHD is considered upconverting? and not cross converting? Meaning the Kona 2 will be able to do this?
How about from HDV to HDCam/1080i? Is that up? or cross?”
Cross Conversion is 720 to 1080 or 1080 to 720. The Kona 3 can do this.
What you’re asking about is bringing in one format and capturing it to another. The LH, Kona 2 and Kona 3 can all do this.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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ok, but what about outputting? Which card must you use to output HDV to DVCPro HD?
What is it that makes it easier on these cards to capture and convert to any format but harder to output/crossconvert that you need the Kona 3 that the Kona 2 is unable to do?
Chi-Ho Lee
Film & Video Editor
Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer
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[walter biscardi] “What you’re asking about is bringing in one format and capturing it to another. The LH, Kona 2 and Kona 3 can all do this.”
However, I can use DVCPro HD to capture at 1080i, albeit at 1440×1080 for 50i. Correct? Do you use the format as 720p or 1080i Walter? Presumably using it 1080i reduces RT performance and ups render times? I presume all the DVCPro HD codecs have a 100Mb/s bitrate?
More questions. Apologies. I have tried to research this.
Ben
Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations.“The Supercar Run” now available for international distribution from http://www.electricsky.com
See you at IBC – we’re there with our FCP/replay truck…
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