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  • Walter Biscardi I`m stuck pls help!

    Posted by Antonio Atzei on June 3, 2007 at 2:16 am

    Walter
    I have 3 timelines ready for a final SD DVD output. Is a short film only 6.39 long shot on a Z1 HDV 1080i .Why I have 3 timelines you may ask…. well to cut a long story short my first output was pretty bad. That means HDV edited timeline then nested in a SD timeline then Compressor and DVD SP.
    I cannot keep the look of the footage once it`s burned on a SD DVD. It should look pretty dark with strong contrast king of look. But when I play the DVD it looks so bright nothing like in the timeline. Following advice I tried also the following options/timelines
    1- hdv— to cpmpressor — to dvd sp — to bright
    2- 8 bit uncompressed — to compressor — to dvd sp — to bright
    3- 10 bit uncompressed — as above — last option
    I`m not a pro I just do short films for passion so I don`t have dead lines to respect,and I don`t mind if I have to wait three days of rendering , ha ha .
    I work on a power mac g5 quad, 5 gb of ram 1 tb of memory, no other projects are in the hard drives. I have updated all the software recently…. yes I have also in my desk fcs 2 but I rather do not install until I resolve this issue I`m a bit stubborn! Why I cannot have the dvd to look the way it looks in the timeline, why the settings vanish in thin air?
    If you can spare any time I really apreciate your help. Is a step by step guide to much to ask?
    Thanking you in advance
    Antonio Atzei

    BABALOTTI PRODUCTIONS
    SYDNEY
    POWER MAC G5 QUAD SYSTEM
    5.5GB RAM
    1 TB OF MEMORY.FCStudio

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  • David Roth weiss

    June 3, 2007 at 3:48 am

    I’m not Walter, but…

    Antonio,

    Compressing video to MPEG2 in Compressor, even HDV video, does not cause any major color shifts unless some type of mistake is made in the process. I have created hundreds and hundreds of professional DVDs using Compressor without experiencing the color shift you are experiencing.

    I suspect that your computer monitor is set incorrectly, and the first time you are actualy seeing your video properly is when you watch the DVDs you’ve made on a TV. So, rather than figure out what’s broken in FCP and/or Compressor, what you really should be doing is figuring out a way to make certain that what you’re seeing on your timeline is actually what’s there.

    I hope this helps… If you like to send me a few seconds of your HDV video I’ll be happy to analyze it for you. You can send it to me at drw at drwfilms dot com.

    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Antonio Atzei

    June 3, 2007 at 4:15 am

    David
    Txs for your suggestions I`ll send you a clip a.s.a.p.
    In regards the monitors I had them calibrated with one of those spiders things. And the reason to do that was that i could see that one looked a bit red and the other one on the blue spectrum. But this brings another question, once i choose the color/look for the clip where I cut down the light/ whites down to 70%, how`s that possible that once on a dvd is as bright as ever?
    I`m goind to do a sd timeline do the cc again and send you a clip.
    Thanking you agan
    Rds.
    Antonio

    BABALOTTI PRODUCTIONS
    SYDNEY
    POWER MAC G5 QUAD SYSTEM
    5.5GB RAM
    1 TB OF MEMORY.FCStudio

  • Antonio Atzei

    June 3, 2007 at 4:21 am

    David
    I`m not sure if this can be of any help
    the monitors are.. F419 AG Neovo…., when I purchased the QUAD I asked kindly the company to tune them….. I`m having a bad feeling after your post….. that means new monitors?!HA HA
    Rds.
    Antonio

    BABALOTTI PRODUCTIONS
    SYDNEY
    POWER MAC G5 QUAD SYSTEM
    5.5GB RAM
    1 TB OF MEMORY.FCStudio

  • David Roth weiss

    June 3, 2007 at 4:21 am

    [Antonio Atzei] “once i choose the color/look for the clip where I cut down the light/ whites down to 70%, how`s that possible that once on a dvd is as bright as ever?”

    Which color filter did you apply for your color correction? If its not the 3-way color corrector, then its very possible you’re using RGB color correction. That could create a color shift.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Antonio Atzei

    June 3, 2007 at 4:25 am

    David
    I`m using only CC 3 Way, expecially after purchasing Larry Jordan`s Color Correction DVD.
    Txs
    Antonio

    BABALOTTI PRODUCTIONS
    SYDNEY
    POWER MAC G5 QUAD SYSTEM
    5.5GB RAM
    1 TB OF MEMORY.FCStudio

  • Bret Williams

    June 3, 2007 at 5:16 am

    Your computer monitors don’t contain setup, while your ntsc monitor should. But they shouldn’t be that different if calibrated. Is your ntsc monitor calibrated correctly?

    Why not pop the DVD into the computer and play it there and compare the image right next to the canvas image. If they look the same, then it’s a monitor calibration issue. I assume you’ve watched the DVD on numerous systems.

  • David Roth weiss

    June 3, 2007 at 6:14 am

    [Antonio Atzei] “I`m not sure if this can be of any help
    the monitors are.. F419 AG Neovo”

    Believe it or not, I own two of the very same monitors. So, its not the monitors, unless you somehow had them calibrated incorrectly.

    And, now we know you’re using the 3-way CC, so its not that.

    Humm??? Better send me those few seconds of your cc’ed HDV and I’ll check it out tomorrow.

    Meanwhile, its bedtime here.

    Ciao,
    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Antonio Atzei

    June 3, 2007 at 7:51 am

    Bret
    Txs for your suggestion.. I did try that and the dvd looks always the same…
    I starting from scratch a hdv timeline and now I`m back calibrating the the black and also the whites.
    What if: ( is just a theory )
    1- use the first cc 3 way to calibrate blacks and whites
    2- use the second filter cc3 way to do the skin tones
    3- use a third filter cc 3 way to achieve that final look…..
    P.S.
    I deleted those 3 previous timelines because… well it was an accident.. really! ha ha ha
    I thought that using the same filter to do all those adjustments it wood send a very confused signal….. I`m just trying to make sense os this story ….. lucky me I have to present this short in 3 weeks and I hope a …… guy like me will be able by then to produce a dvd according to my liking .. ha ha
    David sorry about those clips It was my intention then I had this crazy change of plans thing in my head , Bret thank you I have been reading the cow for 4 weeks, and you know what I was stunned by the support that all of you offer to hopeless guys like me I say again thank god for the holy cow! I read almost everything … That`s way I never stop to learn whenever I read you comments.
    ciao
    Antonio

    BABALOTTI PRODUCTIONS
    SYDNEY
    POWER MAC G5 QUAD SYSTEM
    5.5GB RAM
    1 TB OF MEMORY.FCStudio

  • Alexander Kallas

    June 3, 2007 at 9:28 am

    Which of these options are you feeding to Compressor to write the m2v file?
    1 direct from the FCP time-line
    2 reference movie
    3 self-contained movie

    Cheers
    Alexander

  • Walter Biscardi

    June 3, 2007 at 2:57 pm

    Looks like the other guys have you all set, good advice and pretty much everything I would have suggested. I simply export reference movies from FCP and let compressor do all my MPEG-2’s.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.

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