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  • VEgas Photo Video Overlay + Ken Burns effect

    Posted by Anmol Mishra on January 31, 2009 at 4:41 am

    Hi! I am attempting an effect that uses the HV20’s stills and video capability. The HV20 takes 3 MP (2048 x 1536) still but shoots 1920×1080 HD (dont want to get into arguments about whether its really 1440 or 1920 as I record from HDMI and get a 1920 image)
    The actual viewing area of the picture is larger than the video.
    For each static camera shot I take a 3 MP still.
    I want to use the larger photo view to create a Ken Burns effect without any digital zoom. Thus I want to
    a. Use the 3 MP picture as a backdrop to the 1080p video.
    b. Use some blending border options (some sort of transparency) so the small change in lighting evens out around the borders.
    c. Use the zoom in from 2048 to 1920 ~ 6% zoom.
    d. Use a tilt from 1536 to 1080. The tilt can be done to approx 33% from top to bottom of the frame.
    e. Do this within the NLE and then export as a final 1080p.

    Now, I think I can
    1. Create a 2048 x 1536 composition with 1080p video and 3 MP image backdrop and then export.
    2. Reimport within vegas and use the Event Pan/Crop tool, and re-export as 1080p.

    How can I do this without the additional 2048 x 1536 composition step ?

    Thus far, I can select both the photo and the video and select Group to work with them together. However, when I open the Event Pan/Crop tool, it is still linked separately to the Video and Photo, I dont see a way to use it for both.
    Also, grouping the photo and video does not give a 2048 x 1536 view where the areas around the video and automatically taken from the photo.

    John Rofrano replied 17 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    January 31, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    I’m having a hard time picturing what it is you are trying to do. If you drop the image into a 1920×1080 project and go into Pan/Crop and select Match Output Aspect, Vegas will crop the images to match the video. You may have to adjust them up or down to get an exact match.

    If you want them to behave as one piece of media you can make them into a separate project and then drop the project into your original project (like a nested comp in After Effects) and Vegas will treat the nested project like a single piece of media while still allowing you to edit the individual events separately in their own project.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Anmol Mishra

    January 31, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    That not quite what I was thinking of, but your allusion to a nested comp is very useful. This is what I am thinking of doing. Making a 2048 x 1536 project to match a 3 MP still. I will drop the 1080p files into this project. The extra resolution with be used for a Ken Burns effect.

    Now I will drop this project into a 1080p sized project, and hey presto I have now added zoom and tilt into my work without loss of resolution using the extra resolution and size obtained from the still..

    Thanks for the nested comp idea.

  • John Rofrano

    January 31, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    You don’t have to go through all that trouble. Dropping a 2048 x 1536 image into a 1920 x 1080 project still gives you 2048 x 1536 of resolution to play with. Vegas will not downconvert it at all so you can zoom in without any loss of quality.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Anmol Mishra

    January 31, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Problem is that I could not figure out how to link the two – 1080P and 3M still together such that both will have the same Pan Zoom effect applied to them
    Is it something as simple as creating a parent-child for the video and still?

    I am a newbie to Vegas, and still trying to figure out stuff with it..
    Thanks!

  • Anmol Mishra

    January 31, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Ah! Here is a specific question. I have 2 tracks, 1 video at 1080p, and 1 still at 2048 x 1536. I click on compositing mode and then click on Make Compositing Child, so now, the still at Track 2 is a child of the video at Track 1.

    I am essentially trying to apply the same Event Pan/Zoom to BOTH these tracks.

    What I am trying to achieve is this. If I zoom out of the video, I want to see the still around the edges instead of a black bar or an enlargement of the 1080p video by Vegas.

    Problem is that I cannot figure out how Vegas allows us to merge two tracks together so that the same Pan-Zoom effect is applied to both. I can still see 2 separate icons for Pan-Zoom, and if I apply the Pan-Zoom to either track, then it is only applied to that track, NOT to both.

  • Adam Rose esq.

    January 31, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    you child the still and video tracks to another (empty track)

    then, adjust the zoom/pan using track motion at the EXTREME left of the parent track – not the normal track motion button.

    easy peasy

    🙂

  • Anmol Mishra

    February 1, 2009 at 1:41 am

    Cool. This is getting somewhere. I used the track motion dialog. However, its actions are a bit different from what I was intending to use it for.

    My composition is 2048 x 1536. I want to zoom out to 2168 x 1626 at one keyframe and then zoom in to 2048 x 1536 at the final keyframe.

    So I changed the Position -> Width and Position -> Height inside the Track Motion dialogue at the relevant keyframes.

    When I zoom out to 2168 x 1626 I don’t want Vegas to enlarge the track, I simply want the original dimensions, with a black border showing where the dimensions exceed the track.

    However, I do not see any black border, and I think Vegas ends up enlarging the image when the dimensions exceed the dimensions of the image ?

    On a related note, if I drop a video or photo track different from the resolution of the project, Vegas automatically resizes it.

    Any idea about how to solve these possibly related issues with resizing ?

    Cheers!

  • John Rofrano

    February 1, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    There is no Pan/Crop at the track level. It sounds like you are using Parent Track Motion which is an entirely different thing and will not give you the resolution you want. If you want both events to act as one for Pan/Crop AND want full resolution then using a nested project is the only way to accomplish this.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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