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Vegas Not A Stable Platform
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You’re right on. The biggest problem “IS” it runs on Windows. But most of the world sucked up to the Bill Gates pitch and here we all are. I remember my Amiga… never a computer problem. Oh well.
I do try and keep it offline except for transferring data across my local network. I’ll run some test making sure it is disconnected.
Ken Bennett
Video Adventures
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My recommendation: remove any kind of ‘cutting edge’ hardware cards, or any non-standard hardware. Then format C:\, and install only the software you really need.
I only take mine on the Internet for Windows Updates (manually), and for downloading or uploading specific files to specifically targeted websites. I do all of my surfing on a separate box (laptop).
And if 9.0e won’t work for you, then roll back to whatever worked best.
For what it is worth.
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Here is my system hardware:
Supermicro X7DWA-N, 16GB DDR2 FB-DIMM Mem, dual Xeon 2.83GHz 8-cores, NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT, RocketRAID 2313 & 2221 controllers, VideoToaster card, 500GB system drive, four 1TB storage drives, 4TB internal RAID-5 for video and 6TB external RAID-5 backup & 2nd video drive.Software:
Vegas Pro 9.0e, VT[5b] and Adobe Production Suite CS4. DirectX 10, QT Player 7.6.6, TMPGEnc and Firefox.OS: Windows 7 64-bit.
I capture from HDV tape via Vegas Capture (as m2t) and edit 1080 projects.
I recently did reload WIN 7. If this helps anybody, great. let me know the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
Thanks.
Ken Bennett
Video Adventures
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Ken, it might be helpful if you want us to help you troubleshoot this, to understand under what conditions you ‘crash’. Is it a freeze? If a crash, what is the error message thrown?
Rather than blame bill gates, which is lame, because thousands of people are successfully editing on Vegas, Adobe, and many other applications on Windows without crashing, so let’s just stop blaming Billg. Hell, he doesn’t even work there anymore!
I use Windows 7 and Vegas, along with Lightroom, and many other applications. My machine does not crash or freeze. When it does, it’s almost never the application, but hardware, and sometimes software. It’s rarely Windows itself.
Get a grip and give us the data to really help you. It seems you have a modern system. It’s not the system per se, though it could be a malfunctioning piece of hardware. It also could be a bug you have found in Vegas. So what’s causing the crashes?
Alf
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The first problem is I would bring a clip onto the time line. As soon as I do an error window opens up telling Vegas has encountered a problem and asks for me to send a report to Sony. I do and then the Vegas interface is gone. I ran a few tests. From one media bin I just started double-clicking on each clip adding it to the time line. Add these clips when it fine. I tried another media bin and did the same thing. Several went into the time line fine and then one didn’t which brought up the same error window. So I was finding these “bad” clips all over the place.
In my project where the first “bad” clip was I re-captured it and got the same results. I then made it an avi and it went in fine. It appears that these random “bad” clips are still “bad” after re-capturing them. I did get one to actually go into the time line OK. But, that one caused problem #2.
Problem #2. When I would save and exit Vegas and reload the project, this clip was being replaced by another clip from another media bin. I would again replace it with the right one and save out again. when I reload it, the same wrong clip, again, replaced the one that way there. And when I checked the properties on the wrong clip, it had the name of the right clip that “should” be there.
Problem #3. In another project all seemed to be OK but when I started to take a clip and adjust it into a slow-motion clip, that Vegas error window came up and ask me to send a report to Sony. And again the interface was gone.
So, as you can see, with this happening, I can’t get anything edited at this point. So we’ve got to figure what is the cause of these buggers and fix it. BTW, I’m not really getting a “freeze”, it’s shutting Vegas down.
I hope this helps, Alf.
Ken Bennett
Video Adventures
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Yes, I’ve seen your list of equipment several times. Frankly, I think that may be part of the problem. When you say the problems started AFTER major hardware changes, that adds to my conviction that it is a hardware problem. I suspect that dual Xeon 2.83GHz 8-cores, for example, are relatively rare. You might be a lot better off with a fast but simpler system.
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Try turning off your anti-virus.
Are you using an external HDD?
I don’t use the media manager or bins, but have you tried dragging the file to the timeline?
I have heard, not verified, that turning on the renderfarm option, even though you only have one PC, helps with some multi-core issues. I’ve never needed it, so I haven’t tried it.Steve Mann
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Ken, in rereading the thread, did you make sure you downloaded the 64 bit version of Vegas for your machine? I had a lot of crashes like you describe when I downloaded, by accident, the 32 bit version. (it’s easy to do if you are working quickly). Now, given the comapatability issues of 9.x 64 bit with 32 bit plug ins, I would say that if I had to be compatible with some plugins, given my experience, I would stay on either XP (32 bit) or Vista (32 bit) or even downgrade to Windows 7 32 bit. But the 32 bit version of Vegas does seem to have problems on the 64 bit version of Win 7.
Hope this helps…
Alf
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Bob- the computer has always had dual Xeon 2.83GHz 8-cores since it was built. Did not see these errors in Vegas 8 or 9a, 9b or 9c.
Ken Bennett
Video Adventures
Capturing Your Life’s Adventures!
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