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  • Vegas Crashes Constantly During Rendering

    Posted by Brad Cook on January 1, 2009 at 12:56 am

    Hey all,

    I really need everyones help that can offer any. I’ve been using Vegas for about a month now and its been giving me fits from time to time. The biggest problem is with rendering lengthy AVCHD files with Magic Bullet applied in my projects. The crashes happen at various times and it seems there’s no rhyme or reason why.

    I’ve tried several different methods to get the videos to go through and some ideas work, most don’t. Heres what I’m running:

    Dell XPS 420
    Vista Home Premium
    Intel Core 2 Quad Core 3.0ghz
    4gig of RAM (32bit only regognizes 3.3 though)
    ATI HD 2600XT 256mb video card (800 core clock/1,100 memory clock)
    Vegas 8.0c
    Magic Bullet Looks

    I’ve knocked the rendering threads down from 4 to 1, only running 512mb on the RAM preview, and I typically try to render using Main Concept AVC .mp4, 10mbps, 1280×720 for my clients and for Youtube HD/Vimeo. I also tried shutting down anything in the background that does not need to run including Vista sidebar, McAfee, etc.

    I have a 4:30min wedding project that I’m trying to run through right now and it keeps crashing at around the 50-55% mark. The file has Bullet, Pictures, and music applied.

    If anybody can help me here, I would appreciate it. This is my new side business now and I NEED this stuff to work. I love using Vegas and I don’t want to switch to anything else.

    Thanks for any help and suggestions.

    -Brad C.
    Modern Memory Films
    Jarnagin Photography

    Craig Patterson replied 15 years, 5 months ago 9 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Steve Rhoden

    January 1, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    lol…No need to switch Brad,
    AVCHD is not too friendly a format to edit across the board,
    and added to that you are applying a process intensive plugin
    to the mix…..its always good to convert your avchd files to
    a more editable format first…..Then see if the problem persists.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Creative Arts Director and Film Maker.
    Portfolio at:
    http://www.youtube.com/hentys

  • Chris Young

    January 2, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    If it is Vegas 8.0c try droping the ram preview to the default of 128 or less and set back to 4 threads and in the project media dock click on the lightening bolt icon, top left icon in your project media bin. Try rendering again.

    Chris Young
    CYV Productions
    Sydney

  • Craig Patterson

    January 2, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Hi Brad-

    I’ve recently encountered the same problem, with a machine similar to yours. No one thing will necessarily work, but try these things:

    1. When rendering, you don’t need preview RAM, so bump it down to 16 Meg. The amount you’re using is insanely big!

    2. Render to a different drive than the one your video files exist on. (If the drive can’t keep up, that can also cause Vegas to crash.)

    3. Monitor your CPU temp during render using one of the free programs available. This didn’t fix it for me, but others have had great luck in discovering their CPUs were being overclocked and they didn’t know it.

    4. Click the lightning icon in the Media Pool – that removes any unused clips from the pool. This can be a big help, as they seem to use up RAM.

    5. Remove ANYTHING from memory that’s not rendering-related, like virus scanning, Internet, and anything else you can find.

    6. I can’t recall if you’re using Vista…. if you are, turn off all the fancy-shmancy screen and desktop animations and effects. Just click on “optimize for speed” and you’ll be set.

    7. Make sure Windows is taking care of your Pagefile management. I can go into more detail if you don’t know how to do that.

    Let us know how that goes.

    Craig

  • Craig Patterson

    January 2, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Hi Again Brad-

    I see that you’ve already disabled other services. Sorry, my bad! 🙂

    Just wanted to add that I’ve been using AVCHD in my productions, which typically have between 4 and 30 video tracks, sometimes with very heavy effects, and doing these things, along with checking a few other things (which I can’t recall right now, but I’ll look into if you still have trouble) has solved my issues. My non-proveable belief is that the Preview RAM setting and the lightning button were my real solutions.

    Vegas Pro 8.0c seems to have more posts about crashing, but that doesn’t mean you have to switch – I think it just means it’s a little more picky about having system resources available to it, and not so good about noticing when it doesn’t.

    Craig

  • Jordan Carrick

    January 10, 2009 at 6:15 am

    Craig

    I am having a rendering problem as well. I am only rendering about 1:30 minutes of video and audio and my CPU is getting maxed out (90%-100%) the entire time and my RAM stays at about 53%. I have done everything on your list that you posted above even turning off the Vista theme “Aero”. Sony Vegas crashes EVERY TIME before the render reaches 20%. My video source is off my HDD; it’s just large files of recordings of a computer game. I’ve also tried rendering it to different hdd’s. I’ve never had this trouble until making this video now…and I’m not sure what to do…please help!

    Here are my computer specs:
    Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3.0GHz
    4gigs of Ram
    Nvidia 9800GX2
    WD Raptor 10k RPM 150gig
    Seagate 500gig SATA 3.0GB/s
    Seagate 500gig SATA 3.0GB/s

  • Craig Patterson

    January 10, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Hi Jordan-

    If it crashes at the same place every time, the culprit is most likely a plugin. What I’ve done in those instances is:

    1. Try rendering to a different format. If it works, great, but if it doesn’t, render to (I BELIEVE) MPG, as it will retain the damaged file and let you see the last good frame. I can’t remember for sure if it’s MPG, but you get the idea.
    2. Since you know the area of the crash, narrow down the render so you’re not wasting a bunch of time. Keep narrowing it until you find the frame or transition in question, and deduce from there.
    3. You mentioned you’ve rendered this footage before with no issues. Something must have changed. Think about what you’ve installed recently, and consider doing a System Restore to before that point.

    A last resort is to render the video in pieces, then stitch them together as one and render that. Some people seem to do it a lot, but for me, that’s a Doomsday scenario.

    Any of that help?

    Craig

    http://www.pmerecords.com
    http://www.sarahburgessmusic.com

  • Jordan Carrick

    January 10, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    Craig,

    Thanks for the response. I’m glad you suggested that because after I posted my original message I tried just rendering the part that crashes and come to find out….it’s a transition that makes it crash. I also have the exact same transition later in the video and I tried rendering that one as well and it too crashed Sony Vegas. So, I guess I’ll try rendering in another format….but I don’t understand, it’s a Sony Vegas “3D Flip” transition, why would that crash it?…

    But anyway, Thanks for the help! 🙂

    -Jordan

  • Craig Patterson

    January 10, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    I’m not sure why that transition would cause a crash, but I’ve had very simple transitions cause crashes IF other settings weren’t ideal – such as the ones mentioned earlier in the thread. Finding your solution may still involve those suggestions.

    One thought would be to render just those transitions to an intermediate format, and bring them back in as video clips.

    If you still can’t find a solution, post back, and we’ll see what we can figure out.

    http://www.pmerecords.com
    http://www.sarahburgessmusic.com

  • Andrei Sls

    May 21, 2009 at 9:18 pm

    I have same promlem too)))) ha-ha

    My Vegas( 7/8/9) crashes with Magic bullet 1.1 and 1.2 everytime while rendering HDV
    Render HDV 1440×1080(.m2t) to Hdv 1440×1080 (.m2t)

    Test in Systems: Windows Xp x86(SP3), Windows Vista x64(sp1), Windows 7 x86 – (crushing in all)
    Installed Codecs: K-Lite Codec Pack
    render to HDV 1080-50i progressive (standard Mpeg2 vegas Profile) or HDV Cinescore or HDV Divx 6.85
    Hardware: Intel quard core 6600, 4gb ram, geforse GTX 260 1gb

    everytime error in any places of footage where Used Magic bullet, sometome in intro sometime in middle of footage

    Sometime Vegas stops with last two frames like on picture
    https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3734/thumbs200905212203012.jpg
    The frame in moment of error looks like this
    https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5643/snapshot20090521220251.jpg

    Interesting
    But test Render to DV 720×576 widescreen ALL is GOOD – no one problem with rendering and no errors

    I think that The problem with Vegas and HDV because when render New Blue Film Looks sometimes Vegas crashes too.

  • Gordon Mcdowell

    September 5, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    I’m running both Vegas 8.0c and Vegas 9.0b (both 32-bit). I’ve got a few projects I can’t render whole… the last complex one involved me rendering it in about 40 tiny pieces and ate up a whole day (for a 20 minute video).

    Every time SONY releases an update, I try render the same project with their latest version to see if it has stabilized.

    The project itself is a mix of all formats… AVCHD, MPEG-4 (from Aiptek cameras) and MPEG-2.

    Is there any mechanism SONY’s internal codecs could be bypassed? FFMPG as used by VLC seems 100% reliable. I’d like to try convince SONY that the video data is uncompressed because its coming from a different decoder.

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